F3 Squad] (11:37:06 PM): My big concern is Kim is the obvious vote
[F3 Squad] (11:37:14 PM): And she would see that and play that idol and one of us goes
[F3 Squad] (11:38:00 PM): Priority #1 is all three of us surviving this vote
[F3 Squad] (11:38:09 PM): Priority #2 is all of us making it out without our idols
[F3 Squad] (11:38:15 PM): with our idols*
Sagar D (11:38:57 PM): right
[F3 Squad] (11:39:41 PM): Here's two potential moves - 1. We can ask Kim/Renee who they think should go and pretend to roll along with that idea without causing drama or 2. We tell Renee and JEB that Kim is the vote and we vote either Renee or JEB and hope Kim plays her idol
[F3 Squad] (11:41:30 PM): If we play it safe and assume Renee/Jeb/Kim are together, we don't have room to split votes safely
Sagar D (11:41:46 PM): chris/sam need to come n
Sagar D (11:41:48 PM): on*
Sagar D (11:41:53 PM): chris hasn't responded to you right?
[F3 Squad] (11:41:56 PM): No sir
[F3 Squad] (11:42:10 PM): hmmmmmmm
[F3 Squad] (11:42:12 PM): frick
[F3 Squad] (11:42:21 PM): The idols make this game a MESS
Sagar D (11:42:40 PM): yeah this is just bothersome
Sagar D (11:42:41 PM): ugh
Sagar D (11:42:47 PM): it shouldn't be this complicated
[F3 Squad] (11:42:58 PM): In a normal game, Kim would never have an idol
[F3 Squad] (11:42:59 PM): yeah :/
Sagar D (11:43:55 PM): LMAO
Sagar D (11:44:09 PM): even sandy mentioned her FB games
[F3 Squad] (11:44:10 PM): Do you guys think Kim will play the idol?
Sagar D (11:44:12 PM): in the TC thread
[F3 Squad] (11:44:17 PM): Dude
[F3 Squad] (11:44:27 PM): I told him she couldn't answer her question because she has only talked to like 2 people
Sagar D (11:44:55 PM): LOL
[F3 Squad] (11:45:50 PM): i think Kim would play it
[F3 Squad] (11:45:58 PM): and we have to act like she will
[F3 Squad] (11:46:52 PM): So should we even bother putting votes on her?
[F3 Squad] (11:47:24 PM): well idk
[F3 Squad] (11:48:08 PM): We could hear them out, play along with their vote idea, subtly imply that the people not involved in their voting plans are voting for Kim, in reality we vote for JEB or Renee
[F3 Squad] (11:49:03 PM): hmmm I suppose
[F3 Squad] (11:49:12 PM): are they on skype?!
[F3 Squad] (11:49:17 PM): i dont' get on skype
Sagar D (11:49:23 PM): nope they're not
[F3 Squad] (11:53:38 PM): well shit
[F3 Squad] (11:55:34 PM): It's important that we don't get paranoid between the three of us
[F3 Squad] (11:55:46 PM): We have a solid thing going
[F3 Squad] (11:55:46 PM): hahaha i completely trust both of you
Sagar D (11:56:02 PM): us 3 are fine. i just want to make sure all of us survive this round lmao
Sagar D (11:56:05 PM): ugh we should have prepared for this
Sagar D (11:56:19 PM): by bringing in chris and sam earlier
[F3 Squad] (11:57:28 PM): btw
[F3 Squad] (11:57:35 PM): how many iS points do you have
[F3 Squad] (11:57:38 PM): i only got 5
Sagar D (11:57:41 PM): 8 lol
[F3 Squad] (11:57:43 PM): I got 7
[F3 Squad] (11:57:47 PM): i was upset haha
Sagar D (11:57:51 PM): i was upset too lmao
Sagar D (11:57:54 PM): i wanted a 10
[F3 Squad] (11:57:56 PM): Yeah I thought I was really really low
[F3 Squad] (11:57:56 PM): how many confessionals did you do?
Sagar D (11:58:06 PM): i don't write long ones because i tend to lose focus
Sagar D (11:58:09 PM): so i post a lot of snippets
Sagar D (11:58:12 PM): as the day goes on
[F3 Squad] (11:58:20 PM): ah, i only had 1 medium-long one
[F3 Squad] (11:58:30 PM): I wrote 4 but they were all pretty long
[F3 Squad] (11:58:37 PM): I wrote about first impressions of everyone
Sagar D (11:58:44 PM): so did i!
Sagar D (11:58:49 PM): i wrote about how much i hate both of you :-P
[F3 Squad] (11:58:53 PM): lmfao
[F3 Squad] (11:58:56 PM): oh my first impressions were like 3 or so sentences
[F3 Squad] (11:59:07 PM): I get really bored at work
[F3 Squad] (11:59:10 PM): haha
[F3 Squad] (11:59:12 PM): So don't think too much into it
Thursday, November 15, 2012
[F3 Squad] (12:12:55 AM): So are we going to feel out the ladies before we decide on who we're voting for?
Sagar D (12:13:13 AM): yeah i believe so
[F3 Squad] (12:13:40 AM): Alright awesome
[F3 Squad] (12:14:03 AM): I'll let you guys know when Chris gets back and we can get a chat with him
Sagar D (12:14:12 AM): yeah
[F3 Squad] (12:15:46 AM): kk
[F3 Squad] (1:08:35 AM): How are you guys feeling about JEB?
Sagar D (1:09:01 AM): well so the idea of making renee think she's the target so she uses the idol but then putting the votes on kim
[F3 Squad] (1:09:03 AM): He told me he wanted to do Renee because she's not active enough but if that was his reasoning, Kim would be the obvious choice, so it's obvious he has something going on with Kim
Sagar D (1:09:09 AM): exactly.
Sagar D (1:09:17 AM): so i'm thinking
Sagar D (1:09:20 AM): he'll be down for splitting votes
Sagar D (1:10:01 AM): giving renee 4 and kim 2
Sagar D (1:10:12 AM): that way kim will be safe for him still
Sagar D (1:10:20 AM): so he'll go with it
[F3 Squad] (1:10:28 AM): hmmm kk
Sagar D (1:10:30 AM): but obviously that's a point of concern later on
[F3 Squad] (1:10:34 AM): he's still ignoring me
[F3 Squad] (1:11:02 AM): Argh
[F3 Squad] (1:12:08 AM): He seems tight with Kim so maybe we shouldn't mention splitting between Renee and Kim?
[F3 Squad] (1:12:23 AM): He might not be alright with the idea that his alliance member will be gone if Renee uses an idol
Sagar D (1:12:31 AM): he just mentioned it to me
Sagar D (1:12:32 AM): lol
Sagar D (1:12:36 AM): the splitting idea
Sagar D (1:12:39 AM): so i think he's okay with it
[F3 Squad] (1:12:50 AM): Maybe he's just not as tight with Kim as we thought
Sagar D (1:13:32 AM): i'm trying to feel him out
[F3 Squad] (1:13:48 AM): My main concern is putting all my eggs into the JEB basket
Sagar D (1:14:14 AM): quite frankly he's not the brightest star in the sky
Sagar D (1:14:39 AM): Jason Ellis-Bextor 1:11 am
True
Smart, you!
I'm not smart cause I'm black :-(
[F3 Squad] (1:14:42 AM): If he votes with Kim and Renee and we split the votes it will be 3-1-4 and the 4 might use the idol
Sagar D (1:14:43 AM): like what does that even mean...
Sagar D (1:14:50 AM): he's not even black
[F3 Squad] (1:14:54 AM): lmfao wtf
Sagar D (1:15:14 AM): i don't see him as the strategic type so i'm not too worried about it lmao
Sagar D (1:15:25 AM): i don't see why he would do that though...he's putting himself in minority if he does that
Sagar D (1:15:33 AM): sure, that would be a big move for this round
[F3 Squad] (1:15:34 AM): True
Sagar D (1:15:39 AM): but he's still royally fucked after
[F3 Squad] (1:15:55 AM): It would seriously break my heart if it was one of the three of us though
Sagar D (1:17:12 AM): i'm up his ass about how it would be sweet if the 6 of us stayed tight once we all made merge
Sagar D (1:17:22 AM): that way he realizes that the better option for him
Sagar D (1:17:24 AM): is to vote with us
[F3 Squad] (1:17:40 AM): It really is the best option for him
[F3 Squad] (1:19:09 AM):
Renee - One of us
Kim - One of us
JEB - Renee
Hash - Kim
Sagar - Kim
Dylan - Kim
Chris - Kim
Sam - Renee
[F3 Squad] (1:19:23 AM): But, you forget
[F3 Squad] (1:19:27 AM): he hates being lied to
[F3 Squad] (1:19:33 AM): and he want's Kim to stay
Sagar D (1:19:41 AM): well she will be staying
Sagar D (1:19:49 AM): (presumably)
Sagar D (1:20:01 AM): wait hash
Sagar D (1:20:09 AM): i thought we were doing 4 on renee
Sagar D (1:20:12 AM): and 2 on kim
Sagar D (1:20:14 AM): to appease jeb
[F3 Squad] (1:20:17 AM): Oh alright
[F3 Squad] (1:20:18 AM): We can do that
Sagar D (1:20:32 AM): no i mean, we can do your plan too
Sagar D (1:20:35 AM): but he would feel blindsided
[F3 Squad] (1:20:48 AM):
Renee - One of us
Kim - One of us
JEB - Kim
Hash - Renee
Sagar - Renee
Dylan - Renee
Chris - Renee
Sam - Kim
[F3 Squad] (1:20:55 AM): It wasn't a plan I just misunderstood because I'm a dumbass
[F3 Squad] (1:21:02 AM): lmao
[F3 Squad] (1:21:04 AM): We should appease JEB as long as possible
[F3 Squad] (1:21:19 AM): Oh wait JEB won't vote Kim
Sagar D (1:21:24 AM): LOL
[F3 Squad] (1:21:25 AM): So one of us will have to
Sagar D (1:21:32 AM): yeah i don't mind doing it.
[F3 Squad] (1:21:37 AM): Alright great
[F3 Squad] (1:21:41 AM): I told JEB i just started talking to you Hash
[F3 Squad] (1:21:50 AM): Alright cool
[F3 Squad] (1:21:57 AM): I haven't told him that I have talked to either of you
[F3 Squad] (1:22:06 AM):
Renee - One of us
Kim - One of us
JEB - Renee
Hash - Renee
Sagar - Kim
Dylan - Renee
Chris - Renee
Sam - Kim
Sagar D (1:22:08 AM): just like keep mentioning the fact that us 6 can be a tight group moving forward
[F3 Squad] (1:22:43 AM): kk
Sagar D (1:22:51 AM): and we still have to explain this whole shebang to chris/sam
Sagar D (1:22:52 AM): sigh.
[F3 Squad] (1:23:01 AM): lmfao
[F3 Squad] (1:23:04 AM): so if the girls are united that's a tie
[F3 Squad] (1:23:15 AM): If the girls are united and Renee plays an idol it's a tie
[F3 Squad] (1:23:16 AM): and we're assuming chris/sam aren't with them
[F3 Squad] (1:23:24 AM): I'm pretty sure they're not
[F3 Squad] (1:23:30 AM): Since Sam told us about Kim
Sagar D (1:23:55 AM): sam made a fauxlliance with kim
Sagar D (1:24:01 AM): i don't think he will mind voting her out
Sagar D (1:24:04 AM): or voting for her at least
[F3 Squad] (1:24:04 AM): sagar this is for you:
[F3 Squad] (1:24:06 AM): Jason Ellis-Bextor: (12:22:30 AM) Id feel more attached if I were straight
Sagar D (1:24:20 AM): LOL what
[F3 Squad] (1:24:25 AM): wtf lmfao
[F3 Squad] (1:24:26 AM): i was testing the waters
[F3 Squad] (1:24:35 AM): I was like it's sad to see all the girls in the game leave
[F3 Squad] (1:24:39 AM): and he said that
[F3 Squad] (1:24:46 AM): OHHH lmfao
Sagar D (1:24:53 AM): okay that's good i guess?
Sagar D (1:24:54 AM): idk
Sagar D (1:24:55 AM): lmao
Sagar D (1:24:56 AM): he's odd
[F3 Squad] (1:25:03 AM): He is very strange
[F3 Squad] (1:25:16 AM): Jason Ellis-Bextor: (12:24:14 AM) I think all the guys but Sagar and Hash are gay lol
Sagar D (1:25:23 AM): lmaoooo
Sagar D (1:25:29 AM): wow assumptions!
[F3 Squad] (1:25:31 AM): So the only way this backfires is if JEB votes with the girls and Renee uses her idol
[F3 Squad] (1:25:44 AM): Which is possible since JEB thinks Renee is the one going
[F3 Squad] (1:25:56 AM): You guys sure we don't want to do Kim?
Sagar D (1:26:12 AM): and not tell jeb?
[F3 Squad] (1:26:20 AM): Well I'm not sure
Sagar D (1:26:24 AM): i'm fine with it honestly
[F3 Squad] (1:26:28 AM): I mean we're putting all our eggs on JEB
Sagar D (1:26:32 AM): we need chris/sam on board first
Sagar D (1:26:33 AM): for a f5
Sagar D (1:26:36 AM): and explain all of this shit
Sagar D (1:26:42 AM): and then i'm totally fine doing that
Sagar D (1:26:45 AM): i'd prefer it even
[F3 Squad] (1:26:52 AM): Yeah we can do that
[F3 Squad] (1:26:58 AM): Idk ;/
[F3 Squad] (1:27:09 AM): I do think Kim should leave over Renee
[F3 Squad] (1:27:15 AM): but JEB doesn't like lying
[F3 Squad] (1:27:18 AM): Yeah
[F3 Squad] (1:27:25 AM): It really comes down to how much we trust JEB
[F3 Squad] (1:27:25 AM): like his conversation with me was very adament
Sagar D (1:27:25 AM): sigh
Sagar D (1:27:32 AM): what's he going to do about it though
[F3 Squad] (1:27:32 AM): i was shocked
[F3 Squad] (1:28:21 AM): If Renee asks we're doing Kim right?
[F3 Squad] (1:28:36 AM): yeah
[F3 Squad] (1:28:37 AM): If we don't respond she will just assume it's her
[F3 Squad] (1:28:39 AM): well
[F3 Squad] (1:28:40 AM): wait
Sagar D (1:28:41 AM): this is ridiculous. it frustrates me that we're putting so much thought and strategy into this and it might end up backfiring on us completely
[F3 Squad] (1:28:51 AM): Yup lmfao
Sagar D (1:28:56 AM): idk if we want to tell renee it's kim
[F3 Squad] (1:28:57 AM): These stupid ass idols dude
[F3 Squad] (1:29:11 AM): I think I'm the only one she messages on occassion
[F3 Squad] (1:29:21 AM): So what I will do is feel her out, see who she wants gone
Sagar D (1:29:25 AM): okay perfect
Sagar D (1:29:27 AM): make sure you do that
[F3 Squad] (1:29:34 AM): I will pull her along a bit
Sagar D (1:29:40 AM): if we get sam on board with us as a f5, then he can do the same with kim
Sagar D (1:29:44 AM): since she asked him for an alliance
[F3 Squad] (1:29:58 AM): Yeah, I am pretty sure Kim and Renee are tight though
[F3 Squad] (1:30:10 AM): She really defended Kim when I told her that Kim is never on
Sagar D (1:31:26 AM): yeah
[F3 Squad] (1:31:46 AM): I think if Kim is going to target anyone it might be myself
Sagar D (1:33:55 AM): i'm banking on them screwing up if they try playing the idol
Sagar D (1:33:58 AM): the rules are very specific
Sagar D (1:34:02 AM): it has to be in the same post as your vote
Sagar D (1:34:17 AM): they probably won't do that
Sagar D (1:34:18 AM): but who knows
Sagar D (1:34:19 AM): speculation
[F3 Squad] (1:34:40 AM): They're pretty inactive, they might not answer their Tribal Council question
Sagar D (1:36:43 AM): i'm scared to answer mine. i mean the only obvious answer is that i'm basing my vote on who is least active
Sagar D (1:36:50 AM): but that would give it away to renee/kim lol
[F3 Squad] (1:37:30 AM): scary :/
[F3 Squad] (1:41:23 AM): Hey question
[F3 Squad] (1:41:28 AM): Hey
[F3 Squad] (1:41:30 AM):
[F3 Squad] (1:41:36 AM): should I ask if JEB wants to work together
[F3 Squad] (1:41:41 AM): like me and him
[F3 Squad] (1:41:43 AM): so he feels safe
[F3 Squad] (1:41:44 AM): loved
[F3 Squad] (1:41:48 AM): blah blah blah
Sagar D (1:41:49 AM): go for it dude
[F3 Squad] (1:41:53 AM): kk
[F3 Squad] (1:42:02 AM): I told him that you and I were talking and you seem like a solid option
[F3 Squad] (1:42:15 AM): So yeah absolutely go for it
[F3 Squad] (1:42:36 AM): sweet
[F3 Squad] (1:42:39 AM): He agree'd by the way
[F3 Squad] (1:42:48 AM): for Renee?
[F3 Squad] (1:42:49 AM): He also said Sagar seemed like a smart guy and is active
Sagar D (1:42:57 AM): aww yay.
[F3 Squad] (1:42:57 AM): agreed for the what?
[F3 Squad] (1:42:59 AM): No he agree'd that you seemed like a solid alliance option
[F3 Squad] (1:43:04 AM): ooh sweet
[F3 Squad] (1:43:44 AM): The only thing that could kill this plan is if JEB votes with the women or both women play their idols
Sagar D (1:43:53 AM): we have to take the risk
[F3 Squad] (1:44:03 AM): Yup we have to pick our poison
[F3 Squad] (1:44:05 AM): That's what the idols do