Tribal Council #8

[Deleted]

TRIBAL COUNCIL

[glow=white,2,300]Rafiki Tribe[/glow]

Welcome back to Tribal Council, you all took part in an Auction that could either help or hinder your chances and tonight we will see if what you bid on was worth... paying for... geddit? No? Screw you, I'm giving you GOLD here. You'll also notice that Sagar is absent from this Tribal Council. He has used his Express Pass and will join you guys at the Final Seven, in doing so he has lost his right to vote this round.

Below you will find a set of questions addressed to everyone. Everyone must reply below with their answer and if you do not - you will receive a self vote. Also, there’s a group of questions that everyone in the tribe must answer.

All questions are to be answered here in this thread. Please feel free to say what's on your mind, express yourself because this might be your last opportunity to possibly change your fate in this game.

After an individual has answered their questions please go into your confessional and cast your vote. Please create a "Voting History" thread. Cast your first vote there, and all other votes afterward.

Below you will find a blank piece of parchment. Please save it to your computer and decorate it however you wish, but please include the name or nickname of the person you are voting out. When you are done decorating, save the parchment again, upload it, and post this in your confessional as your vote. Accompany this parchment with a reason.



-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dave
- It's clear that there are five Mbochi players & three Kwele players left and it looks like an inevitable pagonging, but with Sagar out of the picture temporarily and Sam with Immunity, is this the end for Chris? Explain.

Quanz
- What are the advantages and disadvantages of keeping somebody not in your alliance? Have you thought that it could be you this round? Explain.

Tomas
- This whole game has revolved around people playing their Idols, has that paranoia now stopped or does the tribe fear a new one being put in the game? Explain.

Jose
- You've been a very quiet player in this game, was this your initial strategy or did you fall into a role that you're struggling to break free from? What is your thought process for tonight? Explain.

Adrian
- Is it worrying to think that somebody in your alliance could say "I got a better deal with these guys, I'm going with them" and leave you out in the cold? How is your management of the tribe? Explain.

Chris Brown
- Kwele dominated this game in the pre-merge, then all of a sudden you lose three guys to essentially self-voting themselves out and one quit... can you see a member of Kwele winning or are you guys throwing in the towel? Defend.

Sam
- You're safe tonight, that's 100% but as I mentioned to Chris, Kwele are against the wall. Do you see any opportunites to break into majority numbers? Explain.


To All Survivors
- As you vote people out, you're creating a Jury that will vote for the winner. Does the creation of the Jury affect who leaves at a particular stage or would it be inevitable?

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Alright, with that said, it's time to vote. All eligible castaways will have 24 hours;

(THRS NOVEMBER 30TH @ 3am (EST) -- PLEASE CALCULATE THE DIFFERENCE TO AVOID YOUR VOTE NOT BEING COUNTED

...to answer their questions, decorate their vote and post it in their confessional. Once you vote please consider it final. You are allowed to change it, but if everyone has posted their votes before the deadline and one of the hosts is around to send results out early - we will. So please make sure your original vote is fully intended because we do send out results early if all votes are in.

If you wish to play your Hidden Immunity Idol, please state your intention along with your vote.

A few quick reminders:
- Make sure you answer your questions in this thread.
- Make sure you post your decorated vote in your confessionals.
- Make sure you have AT LEAST 1 journal updates before votes are due. Without 1 confessional posts per round will lose their right to vote. If you don’t do your part as a player, then you will not have any influence on who leaves this game.
- Once you post your vote you cannot change it.
- Confessionals = iS points, in the event of tie-break situations these will come into play - the more points the better your chance of surviving.

[Tomas]

This whole game has revolved around people playing their Idols, has that paranoia now stopped or does the tribe fear a new one being put in the game? Explain.


Yeah this season is really different with whole "idols" thing. So once like we already had a break from it survivor auction came with another things But it was part of our strategy in challenge to win good points. Well everyone has his own strategy, but whatever it is in that mystery box. Dave has it, even it's only a box filled with bugs lol.


As you vote people out, you're creating a Jury that will vote for the winner. Does the creation of the Jury affect who leaves at a particular stage or would it be inevitable?

I think it's still early to think only about Jury. I wanna do my best to be honest and loyal to people, but as everybody in this game in some point i lied (sorry Sagar for that TC). I think that yeah jury it's very important point to base the vote on, but there is also more important point and to be safe and survive in this game.

[Chris]

Chris Brown
- Kwele dominated this game in the pre-merge, then all of a sudden you lose three guys to essentially self-voting themselves out and one quit... can you see a member of Kwele winning or are you guys throwing in the towel? Defend.



I can't speak for the other two, but I've done everything I can to make the remaining Mbochi people play and think about dynamic as much as possible, but they're sticking with their pathetic strategy of "pagonging" so it will most certainly be me tonight (unless by some miracle someone wakes up). In all of my experience (that's 10+ yrs, bitches!), I've never seen this take place in an online game - I mean, did you come to play or what? I'm excited to sit on the jury, look cute, and watch a predictable season take place (thanks for ruining our awesome season). They've totally ruined my experience, but I do genuinely still like a lot of these people on a personal level. Dranks when this is all over, plz. <3 Kudos to them for a "strategy" that worked, but it's vile that there will be people that do absolutely nothing make it further than me. I am the season guilty pleasure, everyone loves chris brown and I better be back for an all-star or some shiz! <3



To All Survivors
- As you vote people out, you're creating a Jury that will vote for the winner. Does the creation of the Jury affect who leaves at a particular stage or would it be inevitable?



Clearly, it doesn't affect these douches because they're not thinking about how those of us on the jury will be examining their game play, or lack there of. I respect the person that steps outside the group, makes bolder moves, and goes against the best competition there is to win. As it stands, there is two, maybe three people who I genuinely respect from a gameplay level (although one is a complete asshole, hahaha).

[Jose Luis "Joe"]

Jose
- You've been a very quiet player in this game, was this your initial strategy or did you fall into a role that you're struggling to break free from? What is your thought process for tonight? Explain.

I think in the beginning of the game, everyone does have like an initial strategy of how the want to play the game and expect to play it, but then the nature of Survivor kicks in, and the way you play is sometimes different. In my case, it wasn't my initial strategy i'll be completely honest, so yeah I think as the game progressed I had a more quieter role as you say. My thought process for tonight is "What's the best decision movin' forward?"

To All Survivors
- As you vote people out, you're creating a Jury that will vote for the winner. Does the creation of the Jury affect who leaves at a particular stage or would it be inevitable?

I mean that's inevitable. The best bet for a player is to prove themselves to the jury why you're deservin' to win. Who leaves first or second or last doesn't make a big difference, unless it's some sort of blindside

[Dave]

Dave
- It's clear that there are five Mbochi players & three Kwele players left and it looks like an inevitable pagonging, but with Sagar out of the picture temporarily and Sam with Immunity, is this the end for Chris? Explain.

I think it was apparent to everyone left that whoever of Kwele didn’t grab safety was going to leave this round. I hate to say that Chris is a sitting duck… but it’s the truth. There’s no way to sugarcoat that. The game is about numbers and Chris unfortunately just got a shitty hand dealt to him this round.

I definitely applaud him for not giving up though.

- As you vote people out, you're creating a Jury that will vote for the winner. Does the creation of the Jury affect who leaves at a particular stage or would it be inevitable?

I personally think it’s inevitable. Object of the game is to get to the end meaning people got to go. I think you should be voting out people that will get you to the end and then you can worry about convincing them you should win.

[Adrian]

Is it worrying to think that somebody in your alliance could say "I got a better deal with these guys, I'm going with them" and leave you out in the cold? How is your management of the tribe? Explain.

I think you always worry about that. We have worked hard from the beginning to create a cohesive unit moving forward. That is something Kwele didn't do. They were always too quick to cannibalize their own instead of thinking about the big picture. We had terrible luck as a tribe in the beginning and that shaped us as a band of brothers more than anything. Now that we have good luck, it would totally shock the pants off of me if someone turned their back on that.

I absolutely despise the concept of a pagonging, but the inclusion of 2 kinds of immunity up for grabs at the auction has made it a safer approach for most.



As you vote people out, you're creating a Jury that will vote for the winner. Does the creation of the Jury affect who leaves at a particular stage or would it be inevitable?

Sometimes, circumstances can lead to a change in plans. I don't think it is always inevitable, for instance: Sagar bought an express pass. He did not earn it in a game of skill, he bought it. Sagar has made little effort to connect with me. He has approached every former member of Mbochi with his outlandish claims and schemes, except for me. For me personally, tonight I would vote for someone who has discarded me over someone like Chris Brown who tried to make a connection - but the circumstances won't allow it to be so.

[Sagar]

Sweetie, YOU'RE the one who should be trying to talk with me and connecting with me. YOU'RE the one who's going to be in F2, while my FLAWLESS behind will be sitting pretty in the jury. And you're going to throw all that shade at me right now? Nice jury management skills, bro. You lost my vote <3 xoxo

[Adrian]

I also want to point out that I hate that Chris is having a terrible experience. He has fought hard to be here. He has injected enthusiasm into this game and he was just awesome to be around so far. I also hate to see his anger and how he is lashing out at us, but I can't blame him at all. I would be flipping the fuck out if I was in his position.

My gast would be flabbered...

[Adrian]

Nov 29, 2012 18:35:42 GMT -5 Sagar said:

Sweetie, YOU'RE the one who should be trying to talk with me and connecting with me. YOU'RE the one who's going to be in F2, while my FLAWLESS behind will be sitting pretty in the jury. And you're going to throw all that shade at me right now? Nice jury management skills, bro. You lost my vote <3 xoxo

Sagar, I reached out to you first to get to know you. You have since gone to everyone and ignored me. If you have no plans for me, why should I include you in mine?

If my honesty has lost your jury vote, fine, but I am being honest.

PS: Shouldn't you be absent from this tribal council?

[Sagar]

Yeah, but I'm just pointing out that your desperate attempt for Chris' jury vote doesn't come without consequences. It was a nice try, though. And please, you did not, have not, and will not have any plans for me in this game, so don't patronize me as if me actually trying to talk to you would have convinced you to work with me. Outlandish schemes? Um, excuse me for trying to make SOMETHING happen in this game. Did you expect me to go out without a fight? Although I do believe you'll make F2, I'm excited for all of Dave's other little sheep to come strolling into Ponderosa one by one where I will T E A R your sphincters to shreds. I'll be waiting!

[Sagar]

No, it's not your honesty that cost you my jury vote, it was the UNNECESSARY honesty. Bitch, you said it yourself, I'm not even AT this TC, why did you have to just attack me for no reason? I'm not personally offended, but I am offended that you think that was a good thing to say to a guaranteed juror. You're not a diva, don't try to be one.

[Sagar]

Also let it be known that out of all of the Mbochi, you're probably the one I talked to the 2nd most so I don't know where you're getting it from that I avoid you and talk to everyone else.

[Adrian]

Of course I am no diva. I answered the question stating that if circumstances allowed I would not keep someone who hasn't tried with me as much as someone else who has - and so being that the creation of a jury is not always inevitable, but circumstantial too.

That was also me expressing my sympathy towards Chris from an outside of the game perspective. I genuinely like him, as do all of the former Mbochi members.

[Quanz]

- What are the advantages and disadvantages of keeping somebody not in your alliance? Have you thought that it could be you this round? Explain.

I can see why CB is annoyed, he was put in a situation that is almost unwinable (if that's a word) the advantages of voting to keep Chris are that you're going to gain his trust and you'd have a good shot of going to the end and as Penner would say your probably going to tell a good story. Disadvantages are that I have a moral connection to my tribe and frankly Chris doesn't have the numbers. Chris I wish I could do something for you but I can't.

- As you vote people out, you're creating a Jury that will vote for the winner. Does the creation of the Jury affect who leaves at a particular stage or would it be inevitable?

It defiantly affects my decision making, but I think that Jury management is more how you vote people out than when you vote people out.

[Chris]

seriously, i've never played with such a clueless (yet likeable <3) bunch of people in my life. SOMEBODY, ANYBODY, COME OUT OF THE TRANCE.