Post by Tomas on Nov 24, 2012 11:48:40 GMT -5
Sagar message #2
Hey guys,
So I really haven't gotten a chance to talk to either of you at all since we've swapped tribes. But I'm sure Dave has got a chance to tell you both that I am 100% ON BOARD to vote with you guys against Jeb or Kim. I have been talking to him quite a bit over the last few days, and I really do think that us 4 voting together will be to our benefit, because Jeb and Kim are SUPER tight and I really want to break that up. I'm not even worried about the Kwele/Mbochi division. I like playing the game and I don't feel obligated to stay loyal to Kwele when Jeb/Kim never showed any loyalty to me in the first place. So Dave was thinking that us 4 split the vote 2-2 on Jeb and Kim, and I was wondering how to coordinate that. I will be in the hospital day tomorrow and I think I'll be able to access this via my phone, but if you guys don't get back to me, I will assume that I am voting KIM. And hopefully you 3 can coordinate who to vote for (2 on Jeb and 1 more on Kim). Anyway, thanks guys! And I look forward to actually speaking with you in the near future
Sagar
My chat with Dave
[11/24/12 5:00:54 PM] Dave Johnston: yeah, I've got a pm from sagar asking me who he should vote for
[11/24/12 5:00:58 PM] tomas: me too man
[11/24/12 5:01:04 PM] tomas: i guess im gonna use it
[11/24/12 5:02:21 PM] Dave Johnston: I don't want you to waste your idol
[11/24/12 5:02:32 PM] Dave Johnston: but like I said yesterday
[11/24/12 5:02:39 PM] Dave Johnston: i'd much much much rahter you waste it and survive
[11/24/12 5:02:43 PM] Dave Johnston: then not use it and go
[11/24/12 5:02:45 PM] tomas: yeah that's true
[11/24/12 5:02:54 PM] Dave Johnston: I think merge is next
[11/24/12 5:02:59 PM] Dave Johnston: so it'll be a whole new ball game
[11/24/12 5:03:09 PM] Dave Johnston: and if the american's vote together
[11/24/12 5:03:11 PM] tomas: better be all in the merge then be there outnumbered
[11/24/12 5:03:15 PM] Dave Johnston: this round it'll be tie prob
[11/24/12 5:03:19 PM] Dave Johnston: exactly
[11/24/12 5:03:32 PM] Dave Johnston: cause I'm worried sagar is gonna play his idol too
[11/24/12 5:03:37 PM] tomas: okay so im gonna cast my vote
[11/24/12 5:03:45 PM] tomas: and use mine
[11/24/12 5:03:48 PM] tomas: what do you think?
[11/24/12 5:03:54 PM] Dave Johnston: I think it's for the best
[11/24/12 5:03:59 PM] tomas: well in case that im playing my idol we can vote for whoever lol
[11/24/12 5:04:02 PM] tomas: or just dont care
[11/24/12 5:04:12 PM] Dave Johnston: haha yeah that's true
[11/24/12 5:04:20 PM] tomas: if sagar will use idol his vote will go against me or Kim/JEB i guess
[11/24/12 5:04:24 PM] tomas: i dont think that for Joe
[11/24/12 5:04:26 PM] Dave Johnston: or jose
[11/24/12 5:04:31 PM] Dave Johnston: Idk about jose
[11/24/12 5:04:39 PM] Dave Johnston: if they feel you might play your idol
[11/24/12 5:04:42 PM] Dave Johnston: they might split the vote
[11/24/12 5:05:06 PM] Dave Johnston: cause we had that facebook alliance right between me/you/kim/jeb?
[11/24/12 5:05:17 PM] Dave Johnston: cause i'm sure they'll want us to split the votes jose/sagar
[11/24/12 5:05:32 PM] tomas: yeah but i havent told them back lol about it
[11/24/12 5:05:39 PM] Dave Johnston: hahaha yeah
[11/24/12 5:05:45 PM] Dave Johnston: I guess the question becomes
[11/24/12 5:05:48 PM] Dave Johnston: what votes do we make
[11/24/12 5:05:52 PM] Dave Johnston: that piss the least amount of people off
[11/24/12 5:06:00 PM] Dave Johnston: cause if we vote one of kim/jeb
[11/24/12 5:06:05 PM] Dave Johnston: they are gonna come right at us
[11/24/12 5:06:08 PM] tomas: maybe we should told them about splittin for joe and vote also for Sagar
[11/24/12 5:06:13 PM] tomas: but
[11/24/12 5:06:16 PM] tomas: i dont know man
[11/24/12 5:06:17 PM] tomas: i really dont know
[11/24/12 5:06:19 PM] tomas:
[11/24/12 5:06:22 PM] Dave Johnston: I don't trust them
[11/24/12 5:06:24 PM] Dave Johnston: what so ever
[11/24/12 5:06:27 PM] tomas: me neither
[11/24/12 5:06:28 PM] Dave Johnston: BUT
[11/24/12 5:06:32 PM] Dave Johnston: we do know they are super tight
[11/24/12 5:06:40 PM] Dave Johnston: and that's going to put a target on them going into the merge
[11/24/12 5:06:45 PM] Dave Johnston: and we can hide behind that
[11/24/12 5:06:48 PM] Dave Johnston: compared to sagar
[11/24/12 5:07:49 PM] Dave Johnston: if we lose all the numbers at merge, at least one of us is going to have a shot at creating some havoc with the american's cause they aren't going to let jeb/renee make it to the end
[11/24/12 5:07:59 PM] Dave Johnston: er jeb/kim
[11/24/12 5:08:38 PM] Dave Johnston: so I'm thinking we vote sagar this round
[11/24/12 5:09:32 PM] tomas: okay man
[11/24/12 5:09:39 PM] tomas: im going to cast a vote for sagar and use my idol
[11/24/12 5:09:53 PM] tomas: :)whatever will be later
[11/24/12 5:10:02 PM] tomas: we will see
[11/24/12 5:10:01 PM] Dave Johnston: ok, I personally think it's the best move
[11/24/12 5:10:07 PM] Dave Johnston: but yeah... we will see
[11/24/12 5:10:17 PM] Dave Johnston: do you think I should get jose to use his idol too?
[11/24/12 5:10:26 PM] Dave Johnston: i don't want to lose either of you :/
[11/24/12 5:10:50 PM] Dave Johnston: cause it just seems weird to me that sagar would be willing to vote for kim/jeb even tho he's never talked to you or jose
[11/24/12 5:11:05 PM] Dave Johnston: and kim/jeb made that facebook alliance with us ASAP
[11/24/12 5:11:09 PM] Dave Johnston: and Jeb later told me that I was the target
[11/24/12 5:11:23 PM] Dave Johnston: so I don't trust them for a second
[11/24/12 5:11:36 PM] Dave Johnston: but we can at least make it look like to jeb/kim that we trust them
[11/24/12 5:11:43 PM] Dave Johnston: in case they are being legit
[11/24/12 5:12:03 PM] tomas: makes sense to me, i was trusting to the plan when Sagar told me, but then when told me exactly opposite JEB and KIM i lost my trust, because it seems like really well played for me
[11/24/12 5:12:13 PM] tomas: you know, sagar typed me one message
[11/24/12 5:12:24 PM] tomas: then KIM/JEB did an opposite alliance
[11/24/12 5:12:30 PM] Dave Johnston: I really think it's been a ploy to make us feel safe
[11/24/12 5:12:34 PM] Dave Johnston: to not play our idols
[11/24/12 5:12:47 PM] tomas: and then Sagar after 2 DAYS??! told typed me another PM with same words like in first
[11/24/12 5:12:54 PM] Dave Johnston: yeah
[11/24/12 5:12:56 PM] Dave Johnston: it doesn't make sense
[11/24/12 5:13:09 PM] tomas: on other side, there was challenge when all of us destroyed Sagar first but
[11/24/12 5:13:17 PM] tomas: idk, it's better to use our idols lol
[11/24/12 5:13:39 PM] Dave Johnston: I think so
[11/24/12 5:13:55 PM] Dave Johnston: and if sagar was being honest with us
[11/24/12 5:13:56 PM] Dave Johnston: whoops
[11/24/12 5:14:15 PM] Dave Johnston: but it's too hard to trust people right now
[11/24/12 5:14:37 PM] Dave Johnston: i'm gonna tell sagar that me/jose are gonna vote for Jeb
[11/24/12 5:14:40 PM] Dave Johnston: and sagar/you for kim
[11/24/12 5:14:42 PM] Dave Johnston: is that ok?
[11/24/12 5:15:08 PM] tomas: of course
[11/24/12 5:15:23 PM] Dave Johnston: kk
[11/24/12 5:15:27 PM] Dave Johnston: this game gives me a headache
[11/24/12 5:15:35 PM] tomas: same here man
[11/24/12 5:15:37 PM] Dave Johnston: I miss when it was me/you/adrian/ryan
[11/24/12 5:15:37 PM] Dave Johnston: haha
[11/24/12 5:15:38 PM] tomas: it a tough game
[11/24/12 5:15:45 PM] tomas: yeah bro it was the best time
[11/24/12 5:15:50 PM] tomas: i hope we can regroup soon
[11/24/12 5:15:58 PM] Dave Johnston: i hope they'll be ok
[11/24/12 5:16:12 PM] Dave Johnston: and crossing fingers their pot stirring will work
[11/24/12 5:17:45 PM] Dave Johnston: should we tell kim/jeb we could split the votes on Jose? :/
[11/24/12 5:18:26 PM] Dave Johnston: I was gonna send jose a message saying hey man this is everything thats happened
[11/24/12 5:29:21 PM] Dave Johnston: k yeah just sent jose a message explaining everything and telling him to be prepared to use his idol
[11/24/12 5:29:33 PM] Dave Johnston: also told jeb/kim we could split the vote between jose/sagar
[11/24/12 5:29:40 PM] Dave Johnston: and told sagar we are splitting out votes between kim/jeb
[11/24/12 5:29:43 PM] Dave Johnston: LOL
[11/24/12 5:29:45 PM] tomas: i think not to tell them man
[11/24/12 5:30:09 PM] tomas: because in case we tell them and won't split to joe, they will be angry on us that we didnt
[11/24/12 5:30:18 PM] tomas: in case that they are against Sagar for sure
[11/24/12 5:30:23 PM] Dave Johnston: oh well me/you are gonna vote sagar regardless
[11/24/12 5:30:32 PM] Dave Johnston: so it's not gonna be a lie
[11/24/12 5:30:33 PM] tomas: yeah im already casting my vote for him:)
[11/24/12 5:30:43 PM] Dave Johnston: if they want US to be the two to vote for jose
[11/24/12 5:30:46 PM] Dave Johnston: that's LOL
[11/24/12 5:30:47 PM] Dave Johnston: no
[11/24/12 5:31:27 PM] Dave Johnston: i just think it'll be suspicious to them if we are like oh yeah sagar won't use his idol
[11/24/12 5:31:32 PM] Dave Johnston: it'll be 5-1
[11/24/12 5:31:39 PM] Dave Johnston: i don't think they'll want to hear that
[11/24/12 5:35:07 PM] tomas: yeah that's true
[11/24/12 5:35:29 PM] Dave Johnston: I figure just to give them the impression we are loyal
[11/24/12 5:35:34 PM] tomas: but i guess that already know about us 3 together with joe, even if they did an alliance with us
[11/24/12 5:35:36 PM] Dave Johnston: so at merge they'll think we can be useful to them
[11/24/12 5:35:50 PM] tomas: so i dont know with that joe thing
[11/24/12 5:35:51 PM] Dave Johnston: well, it's easy to tell them that jose hasn't been around
[11/24/12 5:36:01 PM] Dave Johnston: cause... he hasn't
[11/24/12 5:36:03 PM] tomas:
[11/24/12 5:36:07 PM] tomas: like all the time lol
[11/24/12 5:36:10 PM] Dave Johnston: haha yeahh
[11/24/12 5:36:27 PM] Dave Johnston: and i sent jose a pm saying that kim/jeb want us to split the votes for him
[11/24/12 5:36:35 PM] Dave Johnston: and to Jose I was like. LOL no. not happening
[11/24/12 5:36:49 PM] Dave Johnston: so it's not like they can run to him
[11/24/12 5:36:54 PM] Dave Johnston: and be like Dave/Tomas want you out!!
[11/24/12 5:37:19 PM] tomas: best idea is to convince them to vote joe, not us we will keep our sagar vote
[11/24/12 5:37:27 PM] Dave Johnston: exactly
[11/24/12 5:37:30 PM] tomas: because in general we will vote for sagar
[11/24/12 5:37:31 PM] tomas:
[11/24/12 5:37:37 PM] tomas: okay got it now finally
[11/24/12 5:37:37 PM] Dave Johnston: that's my tought process
[11/24/12 5:37:39 PM] Dave Johnston: hahaha
[11/24/12 5:37:42 PM] tomas: and i am okay with that
[11/24/12 5:37:42 PM] Dave Johnston: *thought
[11/24/12 5:37:45 PM] Dave Johnston: ok sweet
[11/24/12 5:37:50 PM] Dave Johnston: don't want to do anything you're not cool with
[11/24/12 5:38:19 PM] Dave Johnston: cause I mean no matter what we do
[11/24/12 5:38:23 PM] Dave Johnston: someone's not gonna be happy lol
[11/24/12 5:38:32 PM] Dave Johnston: either sagar or kim/jeb
[11/24/12 5:38:58 PM] Dave Johnston: so it's doing what can position our best moving forward
[11/24/12 5:39:06 PM] Dave Johnston: *us
[11/24/12 5:39:15 PM] Dave Johnston: cause it merge it sounds like everyone wants Adrian gone
[11/24/12 5:39:23 PM] Dave Johnston: from old Kwele
[11/24/12 5:39:28 PM] Dave Johnston: thanks to Brandon -_-
[11/24/12 5:45:17 PM] tomas: yeah and i think that it's same here
[11/24/12 5:45:36 PM] tomas: for me or you even if it was me who win immunity
[11/24/12 5:45:38 PM] tomas: you know
[11/24/12 5:45:46 PM] Dave Johnston: yeah, exactly
[11/24/12 5:46:08 PM] tomas: i just don't buyin why one of the best players of ORG (Kim) and that freakin villain guy (JEB) are gonna work with 2 best threats
[11/24/12 5:46:23 PM] tomas: and same why Sagar would, when he clearly know (from brandon) that we are all together
[11/24/12 5:46:22 PM] Dave Johnston: agreed
[11/24/12 5:46:31 PM] Dave Johnston: yup, i'm with you there
[11/24/12 5:46:37 PM] tomas: and should kick them ass in case we all connect together after merge
[11/24/12 5:46:43 PM] tomas: that's why i'm playing my idol
[11/24/12 5:48:23 PM] Dave Johnston: I think it's the right move