Post by Adrian on Nov 29, 2012 20:29:59 GMT -5
Sagar has been acting like a cry baby since he ended up in his situation. He just goes around complaining and thinking that talking to two people is going to give him a chance.
I decided that I would publicly trounce him over Chris Brown at tribal council so that it would appear to the others in my alliance that they can beat me in a jury vote and thusly keep me around until the end - where I would reveal that this was my plan all along. I would also gain favor with Chris in the process.
Everything I do in this games has a strategic purpose.
I even think my Skype fight with Sagar might have him almost thinking that I deserve his jury vote. Observe:
[1:51:43 AM] Sagar: if you ever thought i was ignoring you, that's not the case
[1:51:44 AM] Sagar: but whatever
[1:52:02 AM] Sagar: yeah i tried to get dave to flip, i tried to get jose to flip
[1:52:03 AM] Sagar: is that my fault?
[1:52:08 AM] Sagar: do you expect me to sit here and just die
[1:52:50 AM] Adrian John Dias: no i don't at all
[1:53:13 AM] Adrian John Dias: but if you were trying as hard as you say you were you would have tried with everyone
[1:53:28 AM] Adrian John Dias: it showed me that you don't want me around in the game
[1:53:32 AM] Sagar: i think that's really bullshit, to be quite frank
[1:53:46 AM] Sagar: "wow sagar you tried to flip everyone except me!!! i'm offended!!"
[1:53:51 AM] Sagar: i'm not trying to be a hot mess over here
[1:53:57 AM] Sagar: it's not like any of you bitches were going to flip
[1:54:10 AM] Sagar: so saying i didn't try hard just because i didn't hopelessly spam EVERY single one of the mbochi
[1:54:13 AM] Sagar: is misguided
[1:54:28 AM] Sagar: i'm not trying to embarass myself
[1:54:33 AM] Sagar: i'm trying to make something happen
[1:54:43 AM] Sagar: and i approached people who i objectively thought were going to flip
[1:54:47 AM] Sagar: could possibly flip, at least
[1:54:55 AM] Sagar: why would i go to all 5 of you and then have you guys compare notes?
[1:54:59 AM] Adrian John Dias: ja, but dude, have you come to me to just talk since then?
[1:55:08 AM] Adrian John Dias: i came to you initially
[1:55:22 AM] Sagar: i don't see what the point of that is at all
[1:55:26 AM] Sagar: it would have accomplished NOTHING
[1:55:35 AM] Adrian John Dias: i tried to get to know you on a personal level as much as one can at first on the internet
[1:55:52 AM] Adrian John Dias: it doesn't have to only be about accomplishing anything
[1:56:09 AM] Sagar: well then, come talk to me about it on skype first rather than calling me out in public
[1:56:10 AM] Adrian John Dias: sometimes it is about trying to get to know the people you are playing with
[1:56:24 AM] Sagar: like i said, i tried my best but now i know none of you are flipping
[1:56:27 AM] Sagar: some of you are playing for 5th and 4th
[1:56:29 AM] Sagar: and that's fine
[1:56:51 AM] Sagar: so attempting to get to know you at this point would be futile
[1:56:54 AM] Sagar: that's the brutal and honest truth
[1:57:09 AM] Sagar: at this point, the burden is on you to get to know me and kiss my ass before you send me packing
[1:57:19 AM] Sagar: that's how survivor works
[1:57:26 AM] Adrian John Dias: so, all i am to you is a pawn in the game and not a person?
[1:57:55 AM] Sagar: if you were a pawn, that would imply i have some level of control over this game
[1:58:05 AM] Sagar: clearly, i'm on death row just waiting for my execution
[1:58:20 AM] Sagar: if you were in my position, you would NOT care enough to get to know the people who were about to fuck you over
[1:58:25 AM] Sagar: and don't say you would
[1:58:29 AM] Sagar: because you don't know how that feels
[1:58:33 AM] Adrian John Dias: you don't know me
[1:58:38 AM] Sagar: and you don't know me
[1:58:41 AM] Sagar: period
[1:59:33 AM] Adrian John Dias: when i was in a hopeless position after the switch i tried my best to still not make things awkward around the people who were happy to gang up on me, even after most of them started ignoring me
[1:59:39 AM] Adrian John Dias: so yes, i would
[1:59:47 AM] Adrian John Dias: i would make the effort
[1:59:48 AM] Sagar: that's completely and utterly different
[1:59:51 AM] Sagar: i mean that's with idols still in this game
[1:59:56 AM] Sagar: this is literally a place in the game
[1:59:58 AM] Sagar: where i have been told
[2:00:01 AM] Sagar: that i am going next
[2:00:09 AM] Sagar: and that i should just forget it
[2:00:15 AM] Sagar: and there's nothing i can do about it
[2:00:20 AM] Sagar: and now i can't even win immunity at final 6
[2:00:25 AM] Sagar: i cannot do ANYTHING
[2:00:26 AM] Sagar: at all
[2:00:32 AM] Sagar: there is no reason for me to even still be here
[2:00:39 AM] Sagar: wasting my time
[2:00:50 AM] Adrian John Dias: but there is no reason we shouldn't get to know each other better
[2:01:17 AM] Adrian John Dias: you're basically saying that i am only important to you if i vote with you
[2:01:27 AM] Adrian John Dias: otherwise i don't mean shit
[2:01:43 AM] Adrian John Dias: that is a crappy attitude
[2:01:47 AM] Sagar: i agree with your point, but unfortunately i'm not in the mood to be friends now after spending 22 days in this game pretty much wasting my time
[2:01:56 AM] Sagar: can you understand that at the very least?
[2:02:04 AM] Sagar: you're not in my position, so you wouldn't know
[2:02:19 AM] Sagar: i appreciate that you're of a friendlier nature than me
[2:02:21 AM] Sagar: but i am not that person
[2:02:23 AM] Adrian John Dias: i was actually upset becasue i felt like we could have at least still become close enough to stay acquainted after the game, dude
[2:02:42 AM] Adrian John Dias: fine
[2:02:54 AM] Adrian John Dias: i will accept that we are different in that sense
[2:03:13 AM] Sagar: i think you are a genuine person and i DO appreciate your honesty
[2:03:21 AM] Sagar: but i just think that it was unnecessary
[2:03:28 AM] Adrian John Dias: i understand you feel upset because there is no hope right now
[2:03:29 AM] Sagar: to say that about me on the board
[2:03:33 AM] Sagar: just in terms of jury management
[2:03:42 AM] Sagar: and i know you're a big fan of the game, so i would hope you understand that
[2:03:48 AM] Sagar: that sometimes it's necessary to play nice
[2:03:54 AM] Sagar: that's how people like natalie white win
[2:04:02 AM] Sagar: and she deserved it, too
[2:04:48 AM] Adrian John Dias: i understand that, but not only was it a genuine and truthful sentiment, but it serves a purpose in my end game which i intend on revealing if i make it to the final 2
[2:05:15 AM] Sagar: well in that case, good luck to you and i look forward to seeing that happen
[2:06:16 AM] Adrian John Dias: i just don't want to leave this game feeling like "Well, Sagar hates me because I was at an advantage and I never got to know what kind of guy he was really like"
[2:06:45 AM] Sagar: don't worry too much about it
[2:06:56 AM] Sagar: at this point, my vote depends solely on FTC answers
[2:07:05 AM] Sagar: because i don't really know anything about the dynamics of who is in control or whatever
[2:07:20 AM] Sagar: but fyi, anyone who brings quanz to f2 wins 7-0
[2:07:21 AM] Sagar: just saying
[2:07:27 AM] Sagar:
[2:08:04 AM] Adrian John Dias: It doesn't matter to me right now about the jury vote. What matters is how you and I got to know each other
[2:08:14 AM] Sagar: yeah i understand that
[2:08:21 AM] Sagar: but my mind is already in the jury
[2:08:32 AM] Sagar: because i feel like i'll be out of the game soon anyway and there won't be any time to create a friendship
[2:08:39 AM] Sagar: i wish the circumstances were quite different
[2:09:12 AM] Sagar: i've become very good friends with people like hash and sam just by spending the majority of this game with them, so it's not like you're just a vote to me
[2:09:17 AM] Sagar: it's just a different circumstance at this point
[2:09:18 AM] Adrian John Dias: like, when you said you were thinking about working out here in Africa and SA was a miniscule possibility, I actually thought, "Hey, awesome! I might get to meet one of these guys in real life!"
[2:09:38 AM] Adrian John Dias: I guess so
[2:09:42 AM] Sagar: yeah i understand
[2:10:06 AM] Sagar: i just feel like even if i were to become good friends with you, you would still be loyal to mbochi regardless
[2:10:08 AM] Sagar: and it would just hurt that much more
[2:10:10 AM] Sagar: once you vote me out
[2:10:44 AM] Adrian John Dias: I am sorry you feel that way, man
[2:12:04 AM] Sagar: if you don't mind me asking, and i would appreciate your infamous honesty on this one. it really serves no purpose for me other than my curiosity
[2:12:18 AM] Sagar: but are you 100% sure that you will make f2 once it's the mbochi guys left in f5
[2:12:26 AM] Sagar: i don't know anything about your place on the totem pole
[2:12:29 AM] Sagar: or anything like that
[2:12:46 AM] Sagar: but how sure are you that you won't be the one getting the boot
[2:13:09 AM] Adrian John Dias: Let's just say that I'm not playing for 3rd
[2:13:23 AM] Sagar: fair enough
[2:13:42 AM] Adrian John Dias: my strategies are what got us here
[2:13:56 AM] Adrian John Dias: i formed the alliance and brought them together
[2:14:11 AM] Adrian John Dias: the hash idol boot?
[2:14:13 AM] Adrian John Dias: me and renee
[2:15:07 AM] Adrian John Dias: i even took ian's idol before we voted him out so that we had a fighting chance if we merged with fewer numbers
[2:15:28 AM] Adrian John Dias: if they are duping me, then i will be shocked
[2:16:08 AM] Adrian John Dias: and i will salute them for playing me so well
[2:17:36 AM] Adrian John Dias: but everything i did, i did for my friends in the game
[2:18:17 AM] Sagar: interesting
[2:18:29 AM] Sagar: so who's next boot if neither of us win immunity?
[2:18:30 AM] Sagar: me or sam?
[2:18:54 AM] Adrian John Dias: right now you would be
[2:19:04 AM] Adrian John Dias: straight-up
[2:19:09 AM] Sagar: and what's the reasoning behind that?
[2:19:13 AM] Sagar: no it's fine, i appreciate the honesty
[2:21:38 AM] Adrian John Dias: you are an immunity threat, you are sneakier than Sam (instead of working with them and chancing a mystery box that could have an idol in it, granting all 3 of you immunity and forcing us to vote one of our own out, potentially forcing cracks - you turned on them to save yourself and that means you're more volatile than he is) and I feel I know Sam more than I know you
[2:23:21 AM] Sagar: yeah those are good reasons
[2:23:41 AM] Sagar: but i mean jose will use his immunity thing on whichever one of us is left at f6 so it doesn't matter that i'm an immunity threat
[2:24:04 AM] Sagar: sam also bid on the immunity necklace and chris also didn't follow through on the plan so i don't know how that makes me volatile
[2:24:20 AM] Sagar: and the 3rd reason doesn't really make much of a difference when you're voting him out anyway
[2:25:08 AM] Adrian John Dias: who knows, maybe people use him as a piggy-back vote for feeling unsure of their positions in the alliance
[2:25:25 AM] Adrian John Dias: two people could easily go with sam to force a tie
[2:25:44 AM] Sagar: we both know that's not happening
[2:26:05 AM] Adrian John Dias: he has the opportunity simply because he made an effort with people, earning him a spot in f6
[2:26:13 AM] Adrian John Dias: i can't say for sure
[2:26:22 AM] Adrian John Dias: stranger things have happened
[2:26:31 AM] Sagar: in this game?
[2:26:35 AM] Adrian John Dias: yup
[2:26:36 AM] Sagar: no they haven't haha
[2:26:48 AM] Adrian John Dias: have you not read our tribal councils?
[2:27:19 AM] Adrian John Dias: oh wait, you weren't on numbochi
[2:27:20 AM] Sagar: this game has been dull for the most part in my opinion
[2:27:21 AM] Adrian John Dias: dude
[2:27:30 AM] Sagar: the idol twist ruined the game
[2:27:37 AM] Sagar: but that's just my opinion
[2:27:48 AM] Adrian John Dias: Rob said that this is a top 5 season back because of all the mbochi tribals
[2:28:23 AM] Sagar: well the rest of the seasons must have been pretty shitty as well
[2:28:34 AM] Adrian John Dias: not one vote was straightforward except for the brandon vote
[2:28:35 AM] Sagar: i don't say this as a bitter bitch, even though i am one
[2:28:45 AM] Sagar: but the american vs. foreigner thing sucked
[2:28:48 AM] Sagar: the idol twist is horrible
[2:29:23 AM] Adrian John Dias: even when me and renee convinced hash to play his idol for her when i would vote him out secretly was awesome
[2:29:32 AM] Adrian John Dias: it was tricky and tough
[2:29:41 AM] Adrian John Dias: that is why i flushed them all last tribal
[2:30:09 AM] Sagar: yeah but i mean he was booted because a self-vote got counted against him right?
[2:30:24 AM] Adrian John Dias: nope
[2:30:31 AM] Adrian John Dias: my one vote killed him
[2:30:47 AM] Sagar: that's well done
[2:30:51 AM] Sagar: but i wasn't there for that
[2:30:55 AM] Sagar: so i just mean, from my perspective
[2:30:58 AM] Sagar: the game was dull
[2:30:59 AM] Adrian John Dias: they say he essentially voted himself out of the game because of how we tricked him
[2:32:22 AM] Adrian John Dias: we told chris and sam we would vote renee, then i showed renee how she was on the bottom of kwele and told her we wouldn't. she took his idol based on the info we spread and she was able to get to the merge with us
[2:33:57 AM] Adrian John Dias: same with how i convinced ian his bs needed redemption and he needed to give me his idol for one night as a sign of trust (because he was leaking info to brandon) and we switched the vote from joes to him, by putting most votes on brandon in case he bluffed, 2 on ian and negating brandon's 1 vote in the process
[2:34:16 AM] Adrian John Dias: i think you will like the early stages once you read what happened
[2:36:04 AM] Sagar: i won't read what happened haha
[2:36:13 AM] Sagar: once the game is over, i ctrl-f for my name in everyone's confessionals
[2:36:17 AM] Sagar: that's basically it
[2:36:26 AM] Sagar: narcissism <3
[2:36:34 AM] Sagar: but i'm glad you told me all that, hopefully it comes through in your FTC as well
[2:37:15 AM] Adrian John Dias: we played a lot of game to get where we got to, so we did earn it
[2:37:26 AM] Adrian John Dias: i am sorry your situation is hopeless
[2:37:29 AM] Adrian John Dias: mine was too
[2:37:34 AM] Adrian John Dias: but like you said
[2:37:45 AM] Sagar: no
[2:37:46 AM] Sagar: no
[2:37:51 AM] Sagar: your situation was not hopeless
[2:37:54 AM] Sagar: you had 2 idols lmao
[2:37:58 AM] Adrian John Dias: i had idols - but i used that to forge a better path later
[2:37:59 AM] Sagar: i have nothing
[2:38:02 AM] Sagar: and no one
[2:38:19 AM] Adrian John Dias: renee would have been an easy option
[2:38:33 AM] Adrian John Dias: but i took down hash and got her to work with us
[2:38:45 AM] Adrian John Dias: yours is more hopeless
[2:38:52 AM] Sagar: mine is completely hopeless
[2:39:22 AM] Adrian John Dias: and i feel for you guys
[2:39:50 AM] Adrian John Dias: but if people like hash were left with his idol, it would have been harder for us
[2:40:04 AM] Adrian John Dias: i think what got you guys was JEB quitting
[2:40:13 AM] Adrian John Dias: that ruined things completely
[2:40:51 AM] Sagar: yeah but he was a fucking idiot anyway and i really don't care about him
[2:40:55 AM] Sagar: that's why i voted out kim
[2:41:07 AM] Sagar: i mean i should have voted jose like i was supposed to but oh well
[2:41:15 AM] Sagar: she was a hag and he was pretty much her bitch
[2:41:50 AM] Adrian John Dias: what did they do that was so horrible?
[2:41:59 AM] Adrian John Dias: i heard from everyone they sucked
[2:42:05 AM] Sagar: they're just not nice people
[2:42:05 AM] Adrian John Dias: well, most people
[2:42:08 AM] Sagar: they start shit for no reason
[2:42:16 AM] Sagar: because they think causing drama is what makes a good player
[2:42:19 AM] Sagar: it's embarassing
[2:42:35 AM] Sagar: and jeb thinks he's a ghetto black girl
[2:42:45 AM] Adrian John Dias: did they just pick fights on Skype or in the boards?
[2:42:53 AM] Sagar: on the board mostly
[2:43:08 AM] Sagar: like if we sit kim out of a challenge because she was completely missing for the challenge before
[2:43:16 AM] Sagar: she would be like "what's that about guys?"
[2:43:22 AM] Sagar: and then start shit
[2:43:30 AM] Sagar: and then when dylan got blindsided because they used their idols
[2:43:34 AM] Sagar: she'd be like, don't mess with the women
[2:43:47 AM] Sagar: i was like honey you just used your idol in round 2, you're not some godlike gameplayer
[2:44:01 AM] Adrian John Dias: (facepalm)
[2:44:02 AM] Sagar: they just didn't know how the social game worked
[2:44:16 AM] Adrian John Dias: sounds like brandon
[2:44:46 AM] Adrian John Dias: btw: i had no idea you were gay until today
[2:44:54 AM] Sagar: LOL who told you that?
[2:45:11 AM] Adrian John Dias: the diva pics and the ru paul drag race comments
[2:45:15 AM] Sagar: LMFAO
[2:45:17 AM] Sagar: i'm bisexual
[2:45:24 AM] Adrian John Dias: see
[2:45:40 AM] Adrian John Dias: i would never have guessed that
[2:45:43 AM] Sagar: i'm sure that...SOME hetero guys like drag race
[2:45:49 AM] Sagar: probably not lol
[2:45:56 AM] Adrian John Dias: ha ha
[2:46:16 AM] Adrian John Dias: i highly doubt it appeals to their sense of humor
[2:46:39 AM] Adrian John Dias: well, i am speaking for myself and the people i know
I decided that I would publicly trounce him over Chris Brown at tribal council so that it would appear to the others in my alliance that they can beat me in a jury vote and thusly keep me around until the end - where I would reveal that this was my plan all along. I would also gain favor with Chris in the process.
Everything I do in this games has a strategic purpose.
I even think my Skype fight with Sagar might have him almost thinking that I deserve his jury vote. Observe:
[1:51:43 AM] Sagar: if you ever thought i was ignoring you, that's not the case
[1:51:44 AM] Sagar: but whatever
[1:52:02 AM] Sagar: yeah i tried to get dave to flip, i tried to get jose to flip
[1:52:03 AM] Sagar: is that my fault?
[1:52:08 AM] Sagar: do you expect me to sit here and just die
[1:52:50 AM] Adrian John Dias: no i don't at all
[1:53:13 AM] Adrian John Dias: but if you were trying as hard as you say you were you would have tried with everyone
[1:53:28 AM] Adrian John Dias: it showed me that you don't want me around in the game
[1:53:32 AM] Sagar: i think that's really bullshit, to be quite frank
[1:53:46 AM] Sagar: "wow sagar you tried to flip everyone except me!!! i'm offended!!"
[1:53:51 AM] Sagar: i'm not trying to be a hot mess over here
[1:53:57 AM] Sagar: it's not like any of you bitches were going to flip
[1:54:10 AM] Sagar: so saying i didn't try hard just because i didn't hopelessly spam EVERY single one of the mbochi
[1:54:13 AM] Sagar: is misguided
[1:54:28 AM] Sagar: i'm not trying to embarass myself
[1:54:33 AM] Sagar: i'm trying to make something happen
[1:54:43 AM] Sagar: and i approached people who i objectively thought were going to flip
[1:54:47 AM] Sagar: could possibly flip, at least
[1:54:55 AM] Sagar: why would i go to all 5 of you and then have you guys compare notes?
[1:54:59 AM] Adrian John Dias: ja, but dude, have you come to me to just talk since then?
[1:55:08 AM] Adrian John Dias: i came to you initially
[1:55:22 AM] Sagar: i don't see what the point of that is at all
[1:55:26 AM] Sagar: it would have accomplished NOTHING
[1:55:35 AM] Adrian John Dias: i tried to get to know you on a personal level as much as one can at first on the internet
[1:55:52 AM] Adrian John Dias: it doesn't have to only be about accomplishing anything
[1:56:09 AM] Sagar: well then, come talk to me about it on skype first rather than calling me out in public
[1:56:10 AM] Adrian John Dias: sometimes it is about trying to get to know the people you are playing with
[1:56:24 AM] Sagar: like i said, i tried my best but now i know none of you are flipping
[1:56:27 AM] Sagar: some of you are playing for 5th and 4th
[1:56:29 AM] Sagar: and that's fine
[1:56:51 AM] Sagar: so attempting to get to know you at this point would be futile
[1:56:54 AM] Sagar: that's the brutal and honest truth
[1:57:09 AM] Sagar: at this point, the burden is on you to get to know me and kiss my ass before you send me packing
[1:57:19 AM] Sagar: that's how survivor works
[1:57:26 AM] Adrian John Dias: so, all i am to you is a pawn in the game and not a person?
[1:57:55 AM] Sagar: if you were a pawn, that would imply i have some level of control over this game
[1:58:05 AM] Sagar: clearly, i'm on death row just waiting for my execution
[1:58:20 AM] Sagar: if you were in my position, you would NOT care enough to get to know the people who were about to fuck you over
[1:58:25 AM] Sagar: and don't say you would
[1:58:29 AM] Sagar: because you don't know how that feels
[1:58:33 AM] Adrian John Dias: you don't know me
[1:58:38 AM] Sagar: and you don't know me
[1:58:41 AM] Sagar: period
[1:59:33 AM] Adrian John Dias: when i was in a hopeless position after the switch i tried my best to still not make things awkward around the people who were happy to gang up on me, even after most of them started ignoring me
[1:59:39 AM] Adrian John Dias: so yes, i would
[1:59:47 AM] Adrian John Dias: i would make the effort
[1:59:48 AM] Sagar: that's completely and utterly different
[1:59:51 AM] Sagar: i mean that's with idols still in this game
[1:59:56 AM] Sagar: this is literally a place in the game
[1:59:58 AM] Sagar: where i have been told
[2:00:01 AM] Sagar: that i am going next
[2:00:09 AM] Sagar: and that i should just forget it
[2:00:15 AM] Sagar: and there's nothing i can do about it
[2:00:20 AM] Sagar: and now i can't even win immunity at final 6
[2:00:25 AM] Sagar: i cannot do ANYTHING
[2:00:26 AM] Sagar: at all
[2:00:32 AM] Sagar: there is no reason for me to even still be here
[2:00:39 AM] Sagar: wasting my time
[2:00:50 AM] Adrian John Dias: but there is no reason we shouldn't get to know each other better
[2:01:17 AM] Adrian John Dias: you're basically saying that i am only important to you if i vote with you
[2:01:27 AM] Adrian John Dias: otherwise i don't mean shit
[2:01:43 AM] Adrian John Dias: that is a crappy attitude
[2:01:47 AM] Sagar: i agree with your point, but unfortunately i'm not in the mood to be friends now after spending 22 days in this game pretty much wasting my time
[2:01:56 AM] Sagar: can you understand that at the very least?
[2:02:04 AM] Sagar: you're not in my position, so you wouldn't know
[2:02:19 AM] Sagar: i appreciate that you're of a friendlier nature than me
[2:02:21 AM] Sagar: but i am not that person
[2:02:23 AM] Adrian John Dias: i was actually upset becasue i felt like we could have at least still become close enough to stay acquainted after the game, dude
[2:02:42 AM] Adrian John Dias: fine
[2:02:54 AM] Adrian John Dias: i will accept that we are different in that sense
[2:03:13 AM] Sagar: i think you are a genuine person and i DO appreciate your honesty
[2:03:21 AM] Sagar: but i just think that it was unnecessary
[2:03:28 AM] Adrian John Dias: i understand you feel upset because there is no hope right now
[2:03:29 AM] Sagar: to say that about me on the board
[2:03:33 AM] Sagar: just in terms of jury management
[2:03:42 AM] Sagar: and i know you're a big fan of the game, so i would hope you understand that
[2:03:48 AM] Sagar: that sometimes it's necessary to play nice
[2:03:54 AM] Sagar: that's how people like natalie white win
[2:04:02 AM] Sagar: and she deserved it, too
[2:04:48 AM] Adrian John Dias: i understand that, but not only was it a genuine and truthful sentiment, but it serves a purpose in my end game which i intend on revealing if i make it to the final 2
[2:05:15 AM] Sagar: well in that case, good luck to you and i look forward to seeing that happen
[2:06:16 AM] Adrian John Dias: i just don't want to leave this game feeling like "Well, Sagar hates me because I was at an advantage and I never got to know what kind of guy he was really like"
[2:06:45 AM] Sagar: don't worry too much about it
[2:06:56 AM] Sagar: at this point, my vote depends solely on FTC answers
[2:07:05 AM] Sagar: because i don't really know anything about the dynamics of who is in control or whatever
[2:07:20 AM] Sagar: but fyi, anyone who brings quanz to f2 wins 7-0
[2:07:21 AM] Sagar: just saying
[2:07:27 AM] Sagar:
[2:08:04 AM] Adrian John Dias: It doesn't matter to me right now about the jury vote. What matters is how you and I got to know each other
[2:08:14 AM] Sagar: yeah i understand that
[2:08:21 AM] Sagar: but my mind is already in the jury
[2:08:32 AM] Sagar: because i feel like i'll be out of the game soon anyway and there won't be any time to create a friendship
[2:08:39 AM] Sagar: i wish the circumstances were quite different
[2:09:12 AM] Sagar: i've become very good friends with people like hash and sam just by spending the majority of this game with them, so it's not like you're just a vote to me
[2:09:17 AM] Sagar: it's just a different circumstance at this point
[2:09:18 AM] Adrian John Dias: like, when you said you were thinking about working out here in Africa and SA was a miniscule possibility, I actually thought, "Hey, awesome! I might get to meet one of these guys in real life!"
[2:09:38 AM] Adrian John Dias: I guess so
[2:09:42 AM] Sagar: yeah i understand
[2:10:06 AM] Sagar: i just feel like even if i were to become good friends with you, you would still be loyal to mbochi regardless
[2:10:08 AM] Sagar: and it would just hurt that much more
[2:10:10 AM] Sagar: once you vote me out
[2:10:44 AM] Adrian John Dias: I am sorry you feel that way, man
[2:12:04 AM] Sagar: if you don't mind me asking, and i would appreciate your infamous honesty on this one. it really serves no purpose for me other than my curiosity
[2:12:18 AM] Sagar: but are you 100% sure that you will make f2 once it's the mbochi guys left in f5
[2:12:26 AM] Sagar: i don't know anything about your place on the totem pole
[2:12:29 AM] Sagar: or anything like that
[2:12:46 AM] Sagar: but how sure are you that you won't be the one getting the boot
[2:13:09 AM] Adrian John Dias: Let's just say that I'm not playing for 3rd
[2:13:23 AM] Sagar: fair enough
[2:13:42 AM] Adrian John Dias: my strategies are what got us here
[2:13:56 AM] Adrian John Dias: i formed the alliance and brought them together
[2:14:11 AM] Adrian John Dias: the hash idol boot?
[2:14:13 AM] Adrian John Dias: me and renee
[2:15:07 AM] Adrian John Dias: i even took ian's idol before we voted him out so that we had a fighting chance if we merged with fewer numbers
[2:15:28 AM] Adrian John Dias: if they are duping me, then i will be shocked
[2:16:08 AM] Adrian John Dias: and i will salute them for playing me so well
[2:17:36 AM] Adrian John Dias: but everything i did, i did for my friends in the game
[2:18:17 AM] Sagar: interesting
[2:18:29 AM] Sagar: so who's next boot if neither of us win immunity?
[2:18:30 AM] Sagar: me or sam?
[2:18:54 AM] Adrian John Dias: right now you would be
[2:19:04 AM] Adrian John Dias: straight-up
[2:19:09 AM] Sagar: and what's the reasoning behind that?
[2:19:13 AM] Sagar: no it's fine, i appreciate the honesty
[2:21:38 AM] Adrian John Dias: you are an immunity threat, you are sneakier than Sam (instead of working with them and chancing a mystery box that could have an idol in it, granting all 3 of you immunity and forcing us to vote one of our own out, potentially forcing cracks - you turned on them to save yourself and that means you're more volatile than he is) and I feel I know Sam more than I know you
[2:23:21 AM] Sagar: yeah those are good reasons
[2:23:41 AM] Sagar: but i mean jose will use his immunity thing on whichever one of us is left at f6 so it doesn't matter that i'm an immunity threat
[2:24:04 AM] Sagar: sam also bid on the immunity necklace and chris also didn't follow through on the plan so i don't know how that makes me volatile
[2:24:20 AM] Sagar: and the 3rd reason doesn't really make much of a difference when you're voting him out anyway
[2:25:08 AM] Adrian John Dias: who knows, maybe people use him as a piggy-back vote for feeling unsure of their positions in the alliance
[2:25:25 AM] Adrian John Dias: two people could easily go with sam to force a tie
[2:25:44 AM] Sagar: we both know that's not happening
[2:26:05 AM] Adrian John Dias: he has the opportunity simply because he made an effort with people, earning him a spot in f6
[2:26:13 AM] Adrian John Dias: i can't say for sure
[2:26:22 AM] Adrian John Dias: stranger things have happened
[2:26:31 AM] Sagar: in this game?
[2:26:35 AM] Adrian John Dias: yup
[2:26:36 AM] Sagar: no they haven't haha
[2:26:48 AM] Adrian John Dias: have you not read our tribal councils?
[2:27:19 AM] Adrian John Dias: oh wait, you weren't on numbochi
[2:27:20 AM] Sagar: this game has been dull for the most part in my opinion
[2:27:21 AM] Adrian John Dias: dude
[2:27:30 AM] Sagar: the idol twist ruined the game
[2:27:37 AM] Sagar: but that's just my opinion
[2:27:48 AM] Adrian John Dias: Rob said that this is a top 5 season back because of all the mbochi tribals
[2:28:23 AM] Sagar: well the rest of the seasons must have been pretty shitty as well
[2:28:34 AM] Adrian John Dias: not one vote was straightforward except for the brandon vote
[2:28:35 AM] Sagar: i don't say this as a bitter bitch, even though i am one
[2:28:45 AM] Sagar: but the american vs. foreigner thing sucked
[2:28:48 AM] Sagar: the idol twist is horrible
[2:29:23 AM] Adrian John Dias: even when me and renee convinced hash to play his idol for her when i would vote him out secretly was awesome
[2:29:32 AM] Adrian John Dias: it was tricky and tough
[2:29:41 AM] Adrian John Dias: that is why i flushed them all last tribal
[2:30:09 AM] Sagar: yeah but i mean he was booted because a self-vote got counted against him right?
[2:30:24 AM] Adrian John Dias: nope
[2:30:31 AM] Adrian John Dias: my one vote killed him
[2:30:47 AM] Sagar: that's well done
[2:30:51 AM] Sagar: but i wasn't there for that
[2:30:55 AM] Sagar: so i just mean, from my perspective
[2:30:58 AM] Sagar: the game was dull
[2:30:59 AM] Adrian John Dias: they say he essentially voted himself out of the game because of how we tricked him
[2:32:22 AM] Adrian John Dias: we told chris and sam we would vote renee, then i showed renee how she was on the bottom of kwele and told her we wouldn't. she took his idol based on the info we spread and she was able to get to the merge with us
[2:33:57 AM] Adrian John Dias: same with how i convinced ian his bs needed redemption and he needed to give me his idol for one night as a sign of trust (because he was leaking info to brandon) and we switched the vote from joes to him, by putting most votes on brandon in case he bluffed, 2 on ian and negating brandon's 1 vote in the process
[2:34:16 AM] Adrian John Dias: i think you will like the early stages once you read what happened
[2:36:04 AM] Sagar: i won't read what happened haha
[2:36:13 AM] Sagar: once the game is over, i ctrl-f for my name in everyone's confessionals
[2:36:17 AM] Sagar: that's basically it
[2:36:26 AM] Sagar: narcissism <3
[2:36:34 AM] Sagar: but i'm glad you told me all that, hopefully it comes through in your FTC as well
[2:37:15 AM] Adrian John Dias: we played a lot of game to get where we got to, so we did earn it
[2:37:26 AM] Adrian John Dias: i am sorry your situation is hopeless
[2:37:29 AM] Adrian John Dias: mine was too
[2:37:34 AM] Adrian John Dias: but like you said
[2:37:45 AM] Sagar: no
[2:37:46 AM] Sagar: no
[2:37:51 AM] Sagar: your situation was not hopeless
[2:37:54 AM] Sagar: you had 2 idols lmao
[2:37:58 AM] Adrian John Dias: i had idols - but i used that to forge a better path later
[2:37:59 AM] Sagar: i have nothing
[2:38:02 AM] Sagar: and no one
[2:38:19 AM] Adrian John Dias: renee would have been an easy option
[2:38:33 AM] Adrian John Dias: but i took down hash and got her to work with us
[2:38:45 AM] Adrian John Dias: yours is more hopeless
[2:38:52 AM] Sagar: mine is completely hopeless
[2:39:22 AM] Adrian John Dias: and i feel for you guys
[2:39:50 AM] Adrian John Dias: but if people like hash were left with his idol, it would have been harder for us
[2:40:04 AM] Adrian John Dias: i think what got you guys was JEB quitting
[2:40:13 AM] Adrian John Dias: that ruined things completely
[2:40:51 AM] Sagar: yeah but he was a fucking idiot anyway and i really don't care about him
[2:40:55 AM] Sagar: that's why i voted out kim
[2:41:07 AM] Sagar: i mean i should have voted jose like i was supposed to but oh well
[2:41:15 AM] Sagar: she was a hag and he was pretty much her bitch
[2:41:50 AM] Adrian John Dias: what did they do that was so horrible?
[2:41:59 AM] Adrian John Dias: i heard from everyone they sucked
[2:42:05 AM] Sagar: they're just not nice people
[2:42:05 AM] Adrian John Dias: well, most people
[2:42:08 AM] Sagar: they start shit for no reason
[2:42:16 AM] Sagar: because they think causing drama is what makes a good player
[2:42:19 AM] Sagar: it's embarassing
[2:42:35 AM] Sagar: and jeb thinks he's a ghetto black girl
[2:42:45 AM] Adrian John Dias: did they just pick fights on Skype or in the boards?
[2:42:53 AM] Sagar: on the board mostly
[2:43:08 AM] Sagar: like if we sit kim out of a challenge because she was completely missing for the challenge before
[2:43:16 AM] Sagar: she would be like "what's that about guys?"
[2:43:22 AM] Sagar: and then start shit
[2:43:30 AM] Sagar: and then when dylan got blindsided because they used their idols
[2:43:34 AM] Sagar: she'd be like, don't mess with the women
[2:43:47 AM] Sagar: i was like honey you just used your idol in round 2, you're not some godlike gameplayer
[2:44:01 AM] Adrian John Dias: (facepalm)
[2:44:02 AM] Sagar: they just didn't know how the social game worked
[2:44:16 AM] Adrian John Dias: sounds like brandon
[2:44:46 AM] Adrian John Dias: btw: i had no idea you were gay until today
[2:44:54 AM] Sagar: LOL who told you that?
[2:45:11 AM] Adrian John Dias: the diva pics and the ru paul drag race comments
[2:45:15 AM] Sagar: LMFAO
[2:45:17 AM] Sagar: i'm bisexual
[2:45:24 AM] Adrian John Dias: see
[2:45:40 AM] Adrian John Dias: i would never have guessed that
[2:45:43 AM] Sagar: i'm sure that...SOME hetero guys like drag race
[2:45:49 AM] Sagar: probably not lol
[2:45:56 AM] Adrian John Dias: ha ha
[2:46:16 AM] Adrian John Dias: i highly doubt it appeals to their sense of humor
[2:46:39 AM] Adrian John Dias: well, i am speaking for myself and the people i know
