Post by Adrian on Dec 3, 2012 4:52:43 GMT -5
During the 2nd part of the challenge, I got the chance to speak to Joe after I PM'ed him. My suspicions were confirmed. Ryan has decided to flip to working with Sam and Sagar. The tried to recruit Joe to work with them, but for some reason he came to us with this info.
The more I thought about what Joe told me, the more it sounded like if I don't win immunity, he might vote with them and send my ass to the jury.
I need to speak with Tomas and Dave...
Hey Joe
[12/1/2012 10:27:14 PM] Adrian John Dias: what's up?
[12/1/2012 10:27:27 PM] Joe Martinez: Hi Adrian
[12/1/2012 10:27:28 PM] Adrian John Dias: you seemed really worried earlier
[12/1/2012 10:27:34 PM] Joe Martinez: not much just chillin'
[12/1/2012 10:27:54 PM] Adrian John Dias: cool
[12/1/2012 10:27:58 PM] Adrian John Dias: hope all is well
[12/1/2012 10:28:10 PM] Joe Martinez: yeah it's somethin' that I heard
[12/1/2012 10:28:39 PM] Adrian John Dias: what did you hear?
[12/1/2012 10:28:44 PM] Adrian John Dias: is it bad?
[12/1/2012 10:29:52 PM] Joe Martinez: bad for the alliance yes
[12/1/2012 10:30:00 PM] Adrian John Dias: holy cow!
[12/1/2012 10:30:21 PM] Adrian John Dias: are you comfortable with sharing the info right now?
[12/1/2012 10:31:24 PM] Joe Martinez: look i'm gonna be honest with ya, it's gonna depend on the outcome of who wins between you and Sam
[12/1/2012 10:32:07 PM] Adrian John Dias: for sure
[12/1/2012 10:32:14 PM] Adrian John Dias: honesty is always good
[12/1/2012 10:32:38 PM] Adrian John Dias: are we the two targets?
[12/1/2012 10:33:14 PM] Joe Martinez: yeah it has somethin' to do with that
[12/1/2012 10:33:30 PM] Adrian John Dias: what???
[12/1/2012 10:33:41 PM] Adrian John Dias: who is targeting me?
[12/1/2012 10:34:03 PM] Joe Martinez: ...ok, I'm gonna tell you, but have to PROMISE, bible, whatever that you are NOT gonna share this with ANYONE
[12/1/2012 10:34:31 PM] Adrian John Dias: I promise
[12/1/2012 10:35:01 PM] Joe Martinez: Quanz wants to flip
[12/1/2012 10:35:09 PM] Joe Martinez: and join Sam/Sagar
[12/1/2012 10:35:22 PM] Adrian John Dias: I thought so, dude!!!
[12/1/2012 10:35:34 PM] Adrian John Dias: he was begging me for iS points!
[12/1/2012 10:35:46 PM] Joe Martinez: his plan was to take me with them, make a F4 deal, vote out you first, then Dave, then Tomas
[12/1/2012 10:36:21 PM] Joe Martinez: to like make a big move and all that
[12/1/2012 10:36:30 PM] Adrian John Dias: wow
[12/1/2012 10:36:38 PM] Joe Martinez: Ryan Quanz 11/30/12 8:15 PM
So if I'm correct the plan is: Vote out Adrian, if he wins vote out Tom. Me and Joe will answer like the way we did at TC last week like you guys don't have a hope
[12/1/2012 10:37:08 PM] Adrian John Dias: Shit
[12/1/2012 10:37:19 PM] Adrian John Dias: Joe, thanks for sharing this with me!
[12/1/2012 10:37:32 PM] Adrian John Dias: You have any other stuff he said?
[12/1/2012 10:37:56 PM] Joe Martinez: just letting ya know, cause out of out all the people Quanz, who's been under the radar for most of the game, just happens to want to make a big move and turn against us.
[12/1/2012 10:39:00 PM] Adrian John Dias: I kinda suspected someone would want to at some point
[12/1/2012 10:39:20 PM] Joe Martinez: yeah I mean it was bound to happen that all 5 of us weren't gonna stick together
[12/1/2012 10:39:45 PM] Adrian John Dias: I guess we shouldn't be surprised
[12/1/2012 10:39:58 PM] Adrian John Dias: but I think I know what we should do
[12/1/2012 10:40:03 PM] Joe Martinez: so I was thinkin', why not backdoor HIM?
[12/1/2012 10:40:09 PM] Joe Martinez: kinda turn the tables a little
[12/1/2012 10:40:24 PM] Adrian John Dias: definitely, but not this round
[12/1/2012 10:41:08 PM] Joe Martinez: when, F6?
[12/1/2012 10:41:16 PM] Adrian John Dias: if the 4 us vote Sagar, he goes
[12/1/2012 10:41:26 PM] Adrian John Dias: then there is no chance of flipping
[12/1/2012 10:41:33 PM] Adrian John Dias: and we take out any traitors
[12/1/2012 10:41:41 PM] Joe Martinez: exactly
[12/1/2012 10:42:43 PM] Adrian John Dias: then it is us 4 all the way!
[12/1/2012 10:43:09 PM] Adrian John Dias: i will make sure I don't give him my iS points
[12/1/2012 10:43:24 PM] Adrian John Dias: if I win
[12/1/2012 10:44:40 PM] Joe Martinez: ok cool
[12/1/2012 10:45:09 PM] Adrian John Dias: how are you looking for iS points?
[12/1/2012 10:45:25 PM] Adrian John Dias: I don't want to risk a tie on low numbers
[12/1/2012 10:46:23 PM] Joe Martinez: Like how many do i have? I spent all mine on the auction lol
[12/1/2012 10:46:51 PM] Adrian John Dias: shit
[12/1/2012 10:47:00 PM] Adrian John Dias: how many did you get in the last round?
[12/1/2012 10:47:12 PM] Joe Martinez: only 4, apparently they don't like my confessionals lol
[12/1/2012 10:48:11 PM] Adrian John Dias: hmmm
[12/1/2012 10:48:18 PM] Adrian John Dias: i will ask the others too
[12/1/2012 10:49:21 PM] Joe Martinez: ok cool
[12/1/2012 10:49:26 PM] Joe Martinez: but like why force a tie i don't get it
[12/1/2012 10:52:04 PM] Adrian John Dias: i don't want to, but in the weirdest chance it happens at least we can be safe in every aspect
[12/1/2012 10:52:41 PM] Adrian John Dias: it is just about being prepared for any possibility
[12/1/2012 10:53:52 PM] Joe Martinez: I mean the only case I see for a tie is F6, but I don't know why this round
[12/1/2012 10:54:00 PM] Joe Martinez: i mean we would have the 4 votes even if Ryan flips
[12/1/2012 10:54:36 PM] Adrian John Dias: exactly, but there is may still be people wanting to flip at F6 no matter what
[12/1/2012 10:54:44 PM] Adrian John Dias: it is a safety precaution
[12/1/2012 10:54:59 PM] Adrian John Dias: Maybe Ryan convinces someone to join him
[12/1/2012 10:55:03 PM] Joe Martinez: I think the outcome of how to vote will be decided on who wins tonight
[12/1/2012 10:55:30 PM] Adrian John Dias: I don't know if I will be up for immunity again at any point, so I might as well use points for safety now
[12/1/2012 10:56:17 PM] Adrian John Dias: are you going to vote with them if i don't win?
[12/1/2012 10:56:37 PM] Joe Martinez: no i'm stickin' with the plan of voting out Sagar
[12/1/2012 10:57:31 PM] Adrian John Dias: okay, cool
[12/1/2012 10:57:35 PM] Adrian John Dias: just had to make sure
[12/1/2012 10:57:47 PM] Adrian John Dias: we should be fine then
[12/1/2012 10:58:16 PM] Adrian John Dias: i have to give the points to somebody, so i will decide later
[12/1/2012 11:01:15 PM] Joe Martinez: ok
[12/1/2012 11:02:38 PM] Adrian John Dias: Joe, you have been a lifesaver
[12/1/2012 11:02:54 PM] Joe Martinez: hey, I'm just lookin' out for my allies
[12/1/2012 11:02:58 PM] Joe Martinez:
[12/1/2012 11:03:07 PM] Adrian John Dias: means a hell of a lot to me
[12/1/2012 11:06:00 PM] Joe Martinez: no problem
If you're only interested in the strategy, you can stop reading from here. The rest is small talk.
[12/1/2012 11:07:04 PM] Adrian John Dias: now that strategy is out of the way
[12/1/2012 11:07:11 PM] Adrian John Dias: how have you been keeping?
[12/1/2012 11:07:28 PM] Adrian John Dias: you've been so quiet this whole game and it is nearly coming to an end
[12/1/2012 11:07:55 PM] Adrian John Dias: I don't want to have not had a few great chats with you before it does
[12/1/2012 11:08:19 PM] Joe Martinez: lol I know i've been so quiet, sorry bout that haha
[12/1/2012 11:08:54 PM] Joe Martinez: well, I recorded a Christmas album, 18 songs, sold it for 3 bucks at a school event on Thursday, did pretty good haha
[12/1/2012 11:09:55 PM] Adrian John Dias: wow!
[12/1/2012 11:10:00 PM] Adrian John Dias: congrats!!!
[12/1/2012 11:10:05 PM] Adrian John Dias: that is amazing
[12/1/2012 11:10:21 PM] Adrian John Dias: i saw it on fb, but i didn't realize you sold it at school
[12/1/2012 11:10:34 PM] Adrian John Dias: how long have you been singing?
[12/1/2012 11:12:18 PM] Joe Martinez: yeah, sold 19 of the 22 copies I had (thank god haha)
[12/1/2012 11:12:32 PM] Joe Martinez: been singin' for 9 years now
[12/1/2012 11:13:32 PM] Adrian John Dias: Wow!
[12/1/2012 11:13:40 PM] Adrian John Dias: you started when you were 5?
[12/1/2012 11:14:01 PM] Joe Martinez: ahah when I was 8 haha I'm 17
[12/1/2012 11:15:12 PM] Adrian John Dias: miscalculation
[12/1/2012 11:15:15 PM] Adrian John Dias:
[12/1/2012 11:15:26 PM] Adrian John Dias: and i was still working on you being 16
[12/1/2012 11:15:32 PM] Adrian John Dias: and i still got it wrong
[12/1/2012 11:15:34 PM] Adrian John Dias:
[12/1/2012 11:16:05 PM] Adrian John Dias: I am just so focused on the challenge, so my mind is distracted
[12/1/2012 11:16:22 PM] Joe Martinez: haha it's ok, focus on the challenge
[12/1/2012 11:16:49 PM] Adrian John Dias: i am still going to chat
[12/1/2012 11:20:20 PM] Adrian John Dias: you think of where you are going to sell the other records?
[12/1/2012 11:20:45 PM] Adrian John Dias: how much did it cost to record the songs?
[12/1/2012 11:21:22 PM] Joe Martinez: probably with the family
[12/1/2012 11:21:35 PM] Joe Martinez: I record on my Mac, have a mic and everythin'
[12/1/2012 11:21:50 PM] Joe Martinez: But it was mostly buyin' the cds and makin' the cover and tracklist
[12/1/2012 11:22:03 PM] Adrian John Dias: awesome!
[12/1/2012 11:22:23 PM] Adrian John Dias: which program do you use for the music and the editing?
[12/1/2012 11:22:40 PM] Joe Martinez: Garageband
[12/1/2012 11:34:10 PM] Joe Martinez: it's a mac software
[12/1/2012 11:34:16 PM] Joe Martinez: you can record and make music there
[12/1/2012 11:34:46 PM] Adrian John Dias: hmmmmmm....
[12/1/2012 11:34:58 PM] Adrian John Dias: we have an expensive mic for voiceover work
[12/1/2012 11:35:11 PM] Adrian John Dias: i still want to test how it records my drums
[12/1/2012 11:35:33 PM] Adrian John Dias: it is a mic they use in studios and has cool settings
[12/1/2012 11:37:00 PM] Joe Martinez: oh that's awesome!
[12/1/2012 11:39:37 PM] Adrian John Dias: we have a business mac as well, so i will look into garageband
[12/1/2012 11:40:09 PM] Adrian John Dias: i normally sound edit in Adobe Soundbooth, but I only know the basics
The more I thought about what Joe told me, the more it sounded like if I don't win immunity, he might vote with them and send my ass to the jury.
I need to speak with Tomas and Dave...
Hey Joe
[12/1/2012 10:27:14 PM] Adrian John Dias: what's up?
[12/1/2012 10:27:27 PM] Joe Martinez: Hi Adrian
[12/1/2012 10:27:28 PM] Adrian John Dias: you seemed really worried earlier
[12/1/2012 10:27:34 PM] Joe Martinez: not much just chillin'
[12/1/2012 10:27:54 PM] Adrian John Dias: cool
[12/1/2012 10:27:58 PM] Adrian John Dias: hope all is well
[12/1/2012 10:28:10 PM] Joe Martinez: yeah it's somethin' that I heard
[12/1/2012 10:28:39 PM] Adrian John Dias: what did you hear?
[12/1/2012 10:28:44 PM] Adrian John Dias: is it bad?
[12/1/2012 10:29:52 PM] Joe Martinez: bad for the alliance yes
[12/1/2012 10:30:00 PM] Adrian John Dias: holy cow!
[12/1/2012 10:30:21 PM] Adrian John Dias: are you comfortable with sharing the info right now?
[12/1/2012 10:31:24 PM] Joe Martinez: look i'm gonna be honest with ya, it's gonna depend on the outcome of who wins between you and Sam
[12/1/2012 10:32:07 PM] Adrian John Dias: for sure
[12/1/2012 10:32:14 PM] Adrian John Dias: honesty is always good
[12/1/2012 10:32:38 PM] Adrian John Dias: are we the two targets?
[12/1/2012 10:33:14 PM] Joe Martinez: yeah it has somethin' to do with that
[12/1/2012 10:33:30 PM] Adrian John Dias: what???
[12/1/2012 10:33:41 PM] Adrian John Dias: who is targeting me?
[12/1/2012 10:34:03 PM] Joe Martinez: ...ok, I'm gonna tell you, but have to PROMISE, bible, whatever that you are NOT gonna share this with ANYONE
[12/1/2012 10:34:31 PM] Adrian John Dias: I promise
[12/1/2012 10:35:01 PM] Joe Martinez: Quanz wants to flip
[12/1/2012 10:35:09 PM] Joe Martinez: and join Sam/Sagar
[12/1/2012 10:35:22 PM] Adrian John Dias: I thought so, dude!!!
[12/1/2012 10:35:34 PM] Adrian John Dias: he was begging me for iS points!
[12/1/2012 10:35:46 PM] Joe Martinez: his plan was to take me with them, make a F4 deal, vote out you first, then Dave, then Tomas
[12/1/2012 10:36:21 PM] Joe Martinez: to like make a big move and all that
[12/1/2012 10:36:30 PM] Adrian John Dias: wow
[12/1/2012 10:36:38 PM] Joe Martinez: Ryan Quanz 11/30/12 8:15 PM
So if I'm correct the plan is: Vote out Adrian, if he wins vote out Tom. Me and Joe will answer like the way we did at TC last week like you guys don't have a hope
[12/1/2012 10:37:08 PM] Adrian John Dias: Shit
[12/1/2012 10:37:19 PM] Adrian John Dias: Joe, thanks for sharing this with me!
[12/1/2012 10:37:32 PM] Adrian John Dias: You have any other stuff he said?
[12/1/2012 10:37:56 PM] Joe Martinez: just letting ya know, cause out of out all the people Quanz, who's been under the radar for most of the game, just happens to want to make a big move and turn against us.
[12/1/2012 10:39:00 PM] Adrian John Dias: I kinda suspected someone would want to at some point
[12/1/2012 10:39:20 PM] Joe Martinez: yeah I mean it was bound to happen that all 5 of us weren't gonna stick together
[12/1/2012 10:39:45 PM] Adrian John Dias: I guess we shouldn't be surprised
[12/1/2012 10:39:58 PM] Adrian John Dias: but I think I know what we should do
[12/1/2012 10:40:03 PM] Joe Martinez: so I was thinkin', why not backdoor HIM?
[12/1/2012 10:40:09 PM] Joe Martinez: kinda turn the tables a little
[12/1/2012 10:40:24 PM] Adrian John Dias: definitely, but not this round
[12/1/2012 10:41:08 PM] Joe Martinez: when, F6?
[12/1/2012 10:41:16 PM] Adrian John Dias: if the 4 us vote Sagar, he goes
[12/1/2012 10:41:26 PM] Adrian John Dias: then there is no chance of flipping
[12/1/2012 10:41:33 PM] Adrian John Dias: and we take out any traitors
[12/1/2012 10:41:41 PM] Joe Martinez: exactly
[12/1/2012 10:42:43 PM] Adrian John Dias: then it is us 4 all the way!
[12/1/2012 10:43:09 PM] Adrian John Dias: i will make sure I don't give him my iS points
[12/1/2012 10:43:24 PM] Adrian John Dias: if I win
[12/1/2012 10:44:40 PM] Joe Martinez: ok cool
[12/1/2012 10:45:09 PM] Adrian John Dias: how are you looking for iS points?
[12/1/2012 10:45:25 PM] Adrian John Dias: I don't want to risk a tie on low numbers
[12/1/2012 10:46:23 PM] Joe Martinez: Like how many do i have? I spent all mine on the auction lol
[12/1/2012 10:46:51 PM] Adrian John Dias: shit
[12/1/2012 10:47:00 PM] Adrian John Dias: how many did you get in the last round?
[12/1/2012 10:47:12 PM] Joe Martinez: only 4, apparently they don't like my confessionals lol
[12/1/2012 10:48:11 PM] Adrian John Dias: hmmm
[12/1/2012 10:48:18 PM] Adrian John Dias: i will ask the others too
[12/1/2012 10:49:21 PM] Joe Martinez: ok cool
[12/1/2012 10:49:26 PM] Joe Martinez: but like why force a tie i don't get it
[12/1/2012 10:52:04 PM] Adrian John Dias: i don't want to, but in the weirdest chance it happens at least we can be safe in every aspect
[12/1/2012 10:52:41 PM] Adrian John Dias: it is just about being prepared for any possibility
[12/1/2012 10:53:52 PM] Joe Martinez: I mean the only case I see for a tie is F6, but I don't know why this round
[12/1/2012 10:54:00 PM] Joe Martinez: i mean we would have the 4 votes even if Ryan flips
[12/1/2012 10:54:36 PM] Adrian John Dias: exactly, but there is may still be people wanting to flip at F6 no matter what
[12/1/2012 10:54:44 PM] Adrian John Dias: it is a safety precaution
[12/1/2012 10:54:59 PM] Adrian John Dias: Maybe Ryan convinces someone to join him
[12/1/2012 10:55:03 PM] Joe Martinez: I think the outcome of how to vote will be decided on who wins tonight
[12/1/2012 10:55:30 PM] Adrian John Dias: I don't know if I will be up for immunity again at any point, so I might as well use points for safety now
[12/1/2012 10:56:17 PM] Adrian John Dias: are you going to vote with them if i don't win?
[12/1/2012 10:56:37 PM] Joe Martinez: no i'm stickin' with the plan of voting out Sagar
[12/1/2012 10:57:31 PM] Adrian John Dias: okay, cool
[12/1/2012 10:57:35 PM] Adrian John Dias: just had to make sure
[12/1/2012 10:57:47 PM] Adrian John Dias: we should be fine then
[12/1/2012 10:58:16 PM] Adrian John Dias: i have to give the points to somebody, so i will decide later
[12/1/2012 11:01:15 PM] Joe Martinez: ok
[12/1/2012 11:02:38 PM] Adrian John Dias: Joe, you have been a lifesaver
[12/1/2012 11:02:54 PM] Joe Martinez: hey, I'm just lookin' out for my allies
[12/1/2012 11:02:58 PM] Joe Martinez:
[12/1/2012 11:03:07 PM] Adrian John Dias: means a hell of a lot to me
[12/1/2012 11:06:00 PM] Joe Martinez: no problem
If you're only interested in the strategy, you can stop reading from here. The rest is small talk.
[12/1/2012 11:07:04 PM] Adrian John Dias: now that strategy is out of the way
[12/1/2012 11:07:11 PM] Adrian John Dias: how have you been keeping?
[12/1/2012 11:07:28 PM] Adrian John Dias: you've been so quiet this whole game and it is nearly coming to an end
[12/1/2012 11:07:55 PM] Adrian John Dias: I don't want to have not had a few great chats with you before it does
[12/1/2012 11:08:19 PM] Joe Martinez: lol I know i've been so quiet, sorry bout that haha
[12/1/2012 11:08:54 PM] Joe Martinez: well, I recorded a Christmas album, 18 songs, sold it for 3 bucks at a school event on Thursday, did pretty good haha
[12/1/2012 11:09:55 PM] Adrian John Dias: wow!
[12/1/2012 11:10:00 PM] Adrian John Dias: congrats!!!
[12/1/2012 11:10:05 PM] Adrian John Dias: that is amazing
[12/1/2012 11:10:21 PM] Adrian John Dias: i saw it on fb, but i didn't realize you sold it at school
[12/1/2012 11:10:34 PM] Adrian John Dias: how long have you been singing?
[12/1/2012 11:12:18 PM] Joe Martinez: yeah, sold 19 of the 22 copies I had (thank god haha)
[12/1/2012 11:12:32 PM] Joe Martinez: been singin' for 9 years now
[12/1/2012 11:13:32 PM] Adrian John Dias: Wow!
[12/1/2012 11:13:40 PM] Adrian John Dias: you started when you were 5?
[12/1/2012 11:14:01 PM] Joe Martinez: ahah when I was 8 haha I'm 17
[12/1/2012 11:15:12 PM] Adrian John Dias: miscalculation
[12/1/2012 11:15:15 PM] Adrian John Dias:
[12/1/2012 11:15:26 PM] Adrian John Dias: and i was still working on you being 16
[12/1/2012 11:15:32 PM] Adrian John Dias: and i still got it wrong
[12/1/2012 11:15:34 PM] Adrian John Dias:
[12/1/2012 11:16:05 PM] Adrian John Dias: I am just so focused on the challenge, so my mind is distracted
[12/1/2012 11:16:22 PM] Joe Martinez: haha it's ok, focus on the challenge
[12/1/2012 11:16:49 PM] Adrian John Dias: i am still going to chat
[12/1/2012 11:20:20 PM] Adrian John Dias: you think of where you are going to sell the other records?
[12/1/2012 11:20:45 PM] Adrian John Dias: how much did it cost to record the songs?
[12/1/2012 11:21:22 PM] Joe Martinez: probably with the family
[12/1/2012 11:21:35 PM] Joe Martinez: I record on my Mac, have a mic and everythin'
[12/1/2012 11:21:50 PM] Joe Martinez: But it was mostly buyin' the cds and makin' the cover and tracklist
[12/1/2012 11:22:03 PM] Adrian John Dias: awesome!
[12/1/2012 11:22:23 PM] Adrian John Dias: which program do you use for the music and the editing?
[12/1/2012 11:22:40 PM] Joe Martinez: Garageband
[12/1/2012 11:34:10 PM] Joe Martinez: it's a mac software
[12/1/2012 11:34:16 PM] Joe Martinez: you can record and make music there
[12/1/2012 11:34:46 PM] Adrian John Dias: hmmmmmm....
[12/1/2012 11:34:58 PM] Adrian John Dias: we have an expensive mic for voiceover work
[12/1/2012 11:35:11 PM] Adrian John Dias: i still want to test how it records my drums
[12/1/2012 11:35:33 PM] Adrian John Dias: it is a mic they use in studios and has cool settings
[12/1/2012 11:37:00 PM] Joe Martinez: oh that's awesome!
[12/1/2012 11:39:37 PM] Adrian John Dias: we have a business mac as well, so i will look into garageband
[12/1/2012 11:40:09 PM] Adrian John Dias: i normally sound edit in Adobe Soundbooth, but I only know the basics