Post by Adrian on Dec 3, 2012 5:07:16 GMT -5
Tom showed me some VERY interesting evidence from Sagar about something Dave said. Sagar seemed to have been trying to probe Dave for info as to who is in charge of the RAGING BROMOSEXUALS. I am guessing Dave was bluffing with his answer, because he said that Ryan and Tomas were the fall guys. I mean, it doesn't make sense for Dave to just blatantly give up such information. Sagar could easily run to everyone with this info - like he has - trying to get people to turn. It just doesn't add up.
This must be why Ryan, of all people, is flipping on us. He believed a bluff! He didn't think to ask the rest of us about it or anything. He just swallowed Sagar's proposal without a 2nd thought.
Tomas and I decided that in case Joe is playing us, the next tribal council would be the ideal one to use his auction item that grants him the ability to negate someone's vote. Seeing as Dave also painted Tomas as a patsy in the bluff, we devised a plan for Tomas to act as a mole and pretend to be in on flipping.
[12/1/2012 12:39:57 AM] tomas: hey bro do you know what it was in dave's mystery box?
[12/1/2012 12:40:55 AM] Adrian John Dias: yup
[12/1/2012 12:41:01 AM] Adrian John Dias: he posted it in the chat
[12/1/2012 12:41:21 AM] Adrian John Dias: he gets to see anyone's vote up until final 5
[12/1/2012 12:41:30 AM] Adrian John Dias: mine sucked as well
[12/1/2012 12:41:57 AM] Adrian John Dias: this is mine:
[12/1/2012 12:42:00 AM] Adrian John Dias: [Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:56 PM] Adrian John Dias:
<<< gyazo.com/8d753849f22c92b0f7a487365c754716
[12/1/2012 12:42:03 AM] tomas: i dont get it:D
[12/1/2012 12:42:18 AM] Adrian John Dias: this is dave's
[12/1/2012 12:42:23 AM] Adrian John Dias: [Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:08 PM] Dave Johnston:
<<< gyazo.com/bf32e37071977326705c3b1b892115f7
[12/1/2012 12:42:32 AM] tomas: LOL
[12/1/2012 12:42:33 AM] tomas:
[12/1/2012 12:42:38 AM] tomas: idiotic
[12/1/2012 12:42:44 AM] Adrian John Dias: ha ha yup
[12/1/2012 12:42:58 AM] Adrian John Dias: if it was an idol and sagar got it, that would have sucked
[12/1/2012 12:43:05 AM] Adrian John Dias: so better safe than sorry
[12/1/2012 12:43:15 AM] Adrian John Dias: (whew)
[12/1/2012 12:43:31 AM] tomas: yeah that's true definitely
[12/1/2012 12:43:40 AM] tomas: we still have mine negate vote
[12/1/2012 12:43:43 AM] tomas: so it's okay
[12/1/2012 12:44:42 AM] Adrian John Dias: for sure
[12/1/2012 12:45:02 AM] Adrian John Dias: i think we will make final 3 easily at this rate
[12/1/2012 12:45:31 AM] Adrian John Dias: it all just depends on if one of us wins final immunity if we both get to final 2 together
[12/1/2012 12:45:56 AM] tomas: yeah it will be hard time that final immunity but i guess we can do this:)
[12/1/2012 12:46:05 AM] tomas: okay im gonna to have a rest:)
[12/1/2012 12:46:08 AM] tomas: see you later bro!
[12/1/2012 12:46:16 AM] Adrian John Dias: later!
[12/1/2012 12:46:20 AM] Adrian John Dias: have a good one
[12/1/2012 10:08:06 PM] tomas: Hey, I normally don't get a chance to catch you on skype, but I ran into some information that I figured you would appreciate looking at. I talked to Ryan about this as well, this is what I sent him:
[8:37:34 PM] Sagar: well, that's fine. i'm not sure why you're ignoring me since i'm going to be on jury lol. but i figured i might as well show you something that you might be interested in seeing. if i were you, i wouldn't run around telling other people that i told you this, because that would confer absolutely ZERO benefit to you. i am giving you a guaranteed shot at the final 2 right now, and this screenshot should show you with absolutely 100% definitive proof that this is the right move to make. sure, you can go around and tell dave that i told you that he told me this, i don't care. i'm leaving this round anyway. but if you do that, you're still getting 5th or 4th no matter what, and this screenshot should prove that. but if you/tomas do decide to flip and guarantee yourselves final 3 instead of getting 5th and 4th, then you know who to talk to.
[8:37:35 PM] Sagar: i.imgur.com/X03aW.png
[8:38:28 PM] Sagar: you can singlehandedly turn this game around at this point in the game, ryan. people won't see you as the sheep or follower anymore and you'll be seen as the person who completely changed his own fate and got himself to the finals.
[8:40:18 PM] Sagar: if you realize now that this is the right move for you, you and tomas can change it up right here, right now with me and sam. at that point, i have no problem at all voting out sam at 4th, and then you/me/tomas are in the f3.
Anyway, that was what I wrote to him, but it applies to you as well. Be sure to click on that image link to see what I'm talking about...I'm sure you will realize that this is the right move at this point in the game. Please get back to me.
[12/1/2012 10:08:13 PM] tomas: this is something from Sagar about Dave lol
[12/1/2012 10:08:47 PM] tomas: this should definitely makes Joe uncomfortable
[12/1/2012 10:12:03 PM] Adrian John Dias: woa!
[12/1/2012 10:12:13 PM] Adrian John Dias: whaaaaat?
[12/1/2012 10:12:28 PM] tomas: to be clear with ya i dont get a shit from sagar
[12/1/2012 10:12:28 PM] Adrian John Dias: is he in cohoots with Joe?
[12/1/2012 10:12:55 PM] tomas: and dave probably just only bluff these guys
[12/1/2012 10:13:04 PM] tomas: but just in case i repost it here not in official thread lol:D
[12/1/2012 10:13:16 PM] Adrian John Dias: ha ha
[12/1/2012 10:13:25 PM] Adrian John Dias: i have been worried about Ryan flipping
[12/1/2012 10:13:41 PM] Adrian John Dias: he came to me asking for iS points again
[12/1/2012 10:13:51 PM] Adrian John Dias: that may help him if he flips
[12/1/2012 10:13:52 PM] tomas: we still can negate one vote
[12/1/2012 10:14:02 PM] Adrian John Dias: i think you should use it
[12/1/2012 10:14:03 PM] tomas: so we can do it this council
[12/1/2012 10:14:11 PM] tomas: but only you and i will know about it
[12/1/2012 10:14:23 PM] tomas: then we can easily see if somebody flipped before it hurts lol
[12/1/2012 10:14:30 PM] Adrian John Dias: if i win immunity, i will give the points to the one with the lowest iS score - other than Joe
[12/1/2012 10:14:41 PM] Adrian John Dias: excellent idea!
[12/1/2012 10:16:47 PM] Adrian John Dias: we should also target whoever of Sam and Sagar has the least points in case
[12/1/2012 10:17:13 PM] tomas: yeah joe is good idea, even if i dont know why the hell he was dissapointed
[12/1/2012 10:18:23 PM] Adrian John Dias: there must be something else going on, here
[12/1/2012 10:18:37 PM] Adrian John Dias: something we have no clue on
[12/1/2012 10:18:50 PM] Adrian John Dias: think about if Joe and Ryan flip
[12/1/2012 10:18:57 PM] Adrian John Dias: then it is 4 - 3
[12/1/2012 10:19:12 PM] Adrian John Dias: if we negate the vote, we have another 3 -3 vote next time
[12/1/2012 10:19:30 PM] tomas: i dont think that Joe will flip he's loyal from first tc, he even played an immunity for me:D lol what a move.. idont get it, but we have to communicate with him
[12/1/2012 10:19:44 PM] Adrian John Dias: we really do
[12/1/2012 10:19:47 PM] tomas: yeah thats true
[12/1/2012 10:19:54 PM] tomas: i will negate the sagar's vote for sure
[12/1/2012 10:19:54 PM] tomas: or sam whatever
[12/1/2012 10:20:17 PM] Adrian John Dias: lol, i would say Sagar's just to piss him off some more
[12/1/2012 10:20:41 PM] tomas: yeah i really want use it for Sagar bro
[12/1/2012 10:20:51 PM] Adrian John Dias: it definitely seems like a bluff from Dave
[12/1/2012 10:21:22 PM] tomas: im gonna contact ryan
[12/1/2012 10:21:27 PM] tomas: with that message
[12/1/2012 10:21:40 PM] tomas: what do you think?
[12/1/2012 10:21:52 PM] Adrian John Dias: good idea
[12/1/2012 10:21:56 PM] Adrian John Dias: see what he says
[12/1/2012 10:22:15 PM] Adrian John Dias: he is online
[12/1/2012 10:22:19 PM] tomas: but for now, only me and you know about negate vote in next TC okay?
[12/1/2012 10:22:26 PM] Adrian John Dias: promise
[12/1/2012 10:22:37 PM] Adrian John Dias: i will most certainly not tell anyone
[12/1/2012 10:22:47 PM] Adrian John Dias: it might blow our secret plan
[12/1/2012 10:22:55 PM] tomas: im sure that you wont, but just in case we have to be careful:)
[12/1/2012 10:23:03 PM] Adrian John Dias: definitely
[12/1/2012 10:23:14 PM] Adrian John Dias: this is a dangerous time in the game actually
[12/1/2012 10:23:38 PM] tomas: yeah it really is
[12/1/2012 10:23:53 PM] tomas: but i still think that they only try to make idiots from us lol
[12/1/2012 10:24:06 PM] tomas: we just have to keep our plan to vote them out
[12/1/2012 10:25:17 PM] Adrian John Dias: exactly
[12/1/2012 10:25:28 PM] Adrian John Dias: any traitors can be dealt with afterwards
[12/1/2012 10:26:25 PM] tomas: it will be okay, we just have to find out what ryan and joe think about it..and even if they will flip we can play it on a tie at least
[12/1/2012 10:26:40 PM] tomas: but honestly i guess that they wont
[12/1/2012 10:27:03 PM] Adrian John Dias: Joe is online
[12/1/2012 10:27:19 PM] tomas: okay
[12/1/2012 10:27:19 PM] tomas: me or you?
[12/1/2012 10:28:19 PM] Adrian John Dias: both of us separately
[12/1/2012 10:29:15 PM] tomas: kk
[12/1/2012 10:29:39 PM] Adrian John Dias: let us see if he tells us different things
[12/1/2012 10:33:31 PM] tomas: i m just tellin him about messages from sagar and sam
[12/1/2012 10:33:39 PM] tomas: he saying that it's crazy
[12/1/2012 10:33:53 PM] tomas: what is worse i have no response from Ryan
[12/1/2012 10:34:13 PM] Adrian John Dias: I think Ryan may be wanting to flip
[12/1/2012 10:36:17 PM] tomas: yeah but joe seems cool to me now
[12/1/2012 10:37:00 PM] tomas: in case that they will get ryan to flip they will need another 1
[12/1/2012 10:37:20 PM] tomas: i replied to sagar, but never told him a word about strategy and he dont reply me back
[12/1/2012 10:37:36 PM] tomas: so idk i hope that they wont start working on joe
[12/1/2012 10:38:02 PM] Adrian John Dias: me too!
[12/1/2012 10:38:14 PM] Adrian John Dias: we have to play it cool
[12/1/2012 10:39:48 PM] tomas: yeah
[12/1/2012 10:41:37 PM] tomas: what do you think that i should talk to sagar?
[12/1/2012 10:41:43 PM] tomas: about his offer?
[12/1/2012 10:41:57 PM] Adrian John Dias: ask him what he has in mind
[12/1/2012 10:42:18 PM] Adrian John Dias: say you might "consider" flipping if he offers you a good deal
[12/1/2012 10:42:30 PM] Adrian John Dias: ask him if anyone else wants to flip
[12/1/2012 10:43:56 PM] tomas: [12/1/12 9:43:22 PM] tomas: me too, i was like i need to be focused at the morning when i read it first time, but i finally read it now
[12/1/12 9:43:24 PM] tomas: anyways
[12/1/12 9:43:30 PM] tomas: it's interesting one
[12/1/12 9:43:42 PM] tomas: i don't get it from dave, but i dont know
[12/1/12 9:43:45 PM] tomas: have you talked to ryan?
[12/1/2012 10:44:50 PM] Adrian John Dias: good work!
[12/1/2012 10:46:19 PM] tomas: we can also make me as flippin on other side, meaning they will think about Me,Ryan,Sam,Sagar against use..but i will vote with ya and use our advantage lol
[12/1/2012 10:46:21 PM] tomas: but we will see
[12/1/2012 10:46:23 PM] tomas:
[12/1/2012 10:46:31 PM] tomas: ryan still havent send response to me
[12/1/2012 10:47:27 PM] Adrian John Dias: wow
[12/1/2012 10:47:34 PM] Adrian John Dias: I am surprised by Ryan
[12/1/2012 10:47:46 PM] Adrian John Dias: I always thought it would be Joe
[12/1/2012 10:48:00 PM] Adrian John Dias: he always seemed most likely to flip
[12/1/2012 10:49:31 PM] tomas: bro
[12/1/2012 10:49:37 PM] tomas: from joe
[12/1/2012 10:50:04 PM] tomas: [12/1/12 9:47:54 PM] Joe Martinez: Ryan Quanz 11/30/12 8:15 PM
So if I'm correct the plan is: Vote out Adrian, if he wins vote out Tom. Me and Joe will answer like the way we did at TC last week like you guys don't have a hope
[12/1/12 9:47:58 PM] Joe Martinez: ...is that the evidence you need?
[12/1/12 9:48:52 PM] Joe Martinez: btw you have to bible you are not gonna mention this to ANYONE!
[12/1/12 9:49:06 PM] tomas: lol ouch
[12/1/12 9:49:20 PM] tomas: i promise of course)
[12/1/2012 10:50:17 PM] tomas: so be quiet with that one:)
[12/1/2012 10:53:24 PM] Adrian John Dias: he sent me the same
[12/1/2012 10:53:28 PM] Adrian John Dias: ssshhhhh
[12/1/2012 10:53:56 PM] tomas: well so i guess it's a really true with ryan
[12/1/2012 10:55:12 PM] tomas: [12/1/12 9:43:45 PM] tomas: have you talked to ryan?
[12/1/12 9:43:52 PM] tomas: about this?
[12/1/12 9:44:18 PM] tomas: it can be real good deal in case that it's true with dave
[12/1/12 9:52:57 PM] Sagar: yeah i have
[12/1/12 9:53:04 PM] Sagar: i talked to him about it and he's down as well
[12/1/12 9:53:52 PM] Sagar: the only thing is that you have to make sure dave doesn't find out about this, because he will try to sweet talk quanz once he finds out i showed quanz what he sent me
[12/1/2012 10:56:55 PM] Adrian John Dias: fuck
[12/1/2012 10:57:04 PM] Adrian John Dias: ryan is naive
[12/1/2012 10:57:54 PM] tomas: dont worry because i guess joe is with us clearly
[12/1/2012 10:58:28 PM] Adrian John Dias: he might be playing us too
[12/1/2012 10:58:44 PM] Adrian John Dias: if he and ryan are on their side, he might be trying to gather info
[12/1/2012 10:59:01 PM] Adrian John Dias: that is why he is telling us seoarately
[12/1/2012 10:59:18 PM] Adrian John Dias: but i will believe Joe for now
[12/1/2012 10:59:39 PM] Adrian John Dias: either way, we have to talk to Dave at some point
[12/1/2012 10:59:49 PM] tomas: yy that's true
[12/1/2012 11:00:01 PM] tomas: for now i can be with that plan to flip
[12/1/2012 11:00:05 PM] Adrian John Dias: but let us not show him what Joe showed us, in case he and Joe have something going on
[12/1/2012 11:00:16 PM] tomas: but you need to talk to dave in case i wont be on... i will tell him same
[12/1/2012 11:00:23 PM] Adrian John Dias: for sure!
[12/1/2012 11:00:35 PM] tomas: yeah thats wise bro!
[12/1/2012 11:00:59 PM] tomas: so i can talk to sagar like im flipping right
[12/1/2012 11:01:16 PM] tomas: i told same to joe (even he knows it's bluff)
[12/1/2012 11:01:46 PM] tomas: in case he is with them, my cover is blown, but we still have negate..in case that he is not with them he will get it because i told him about bluffin
[12/1/2012 11:01:59 PM] Adrian John Dias: the plan should still be vote Sagar out now, and deal with any traitor next
[12/1/2012 11:02:02 PM] Adrian John Dias: awesome plan1
[12/1/2012 11:02:16 PM] Adrian John Dias: go be our spy
[12/1/2012 11:04:05 PM] tomas: [12/1/12 9:57:57 PM] Sagar: yeah of course
[12/1/12 9:58:10 PM] Sagar: i feel really good about this final 4, becaue adrian/dave are clearly popularity threats you know?
[12/1/12 9:58:17 PM] Sagar: like they're both so likable that they would win so easily in the final 2
[12/1/12 9:58:21 PM] Sagar: even i would vote for them on the jury lmao
[12/1/12 9:58:25 PM] Sagar: i feel like doing this really gives us a shot
[12/1/12 9:58:55 PM] Sagar: and adrian has basically been running this game
[12/1/12 9:59:18 PM] Sagar: i think ryan wants to vote out adrian since he's basically running things over there
[12/1/12 9:59:20 PM] Sagar: are you okay with that?
[12/1/12 9:59:24 PM] Sagar: if adrian wins immunity
[12/1/12 10:00:03 PM] Sagar: then we can do dave
[12/1/2012 11:04:54 PM] tomas: [12/1/12 10:03:40 PM] tomas: yeah everyone is real popularity threat but it's right you are right man
[12/1/12 10:03:53 PM] tomas: i just want to be sure that we will go to this with numbers lol
[12/1/12 10:04:15 PM] Sagar: no ryan is solid for sure
[12/1/12 10:04:33 PM] Sagar: can you try talking to him about it? he's online but i think he might not be at his computer right now
[12/1/2012 11:05:23 PM] Adrian John Dias: ha ha
[12/1/2012 11:05:27 PM] Adrian John Dias: what a liar
[12/1/2012 11:05:37 PM] Adrian John Dias: he flat-out said i lost his vote
[12/1/2012 11:05:39 PM] Adrian John Dias:
[12/1/2012 11:07:56 PM] tomas: lol yeah
[12/1/2012 11:08:32 PM] tomas: i am liar also now, he gonna cry same as he did in nukwele that everybody lied to him, but i was trying to be honest to CB,Sam and him but when you cant you just cant lol
[12/1/2012 11:09:30 PM] Adrian John Dias: ha ha
[12/1/2012 11:09:40 PM] Adrian John Dias: Sagar is a big baby for sure
[12/1/2012 11:09:58 PM] tomas: this ORG is full of big babies
[12/1/2012 11:11:31 PM] Adrian John Dias: ha ha ha
[12/1/2012 11:11:38 PM] Adrian John Dias: i know!
[12/1/2012 11:11:51 PM] Adrian John Dias: aren't all ORG's like this?
[12/1/2012 11:12:13 PM] Adrian John Dias: don't people get sulky and angry when they get voted out?
[12/1/2012 11:13:08 PM] tomas: that's why this people will be dead in real survivor or something similiar
[12/1/2012 11:13:23 PM] tomas: because they cant get their emotions calmed down
[12/1/2012 11:13:25 PM] tomas:
[12/1/2012 11:13:40 PM] tomas: i am not best in that also (remember my arguing with brandon lol)
[12/1/2012 11:13:43 PM] tomas: but sagar..i mean seriously
[12/1/2012 11:14:01 PM] Adrian John Dias: everyone get's upset
[12/1/2012 11:14:13 PM] Adrian John Dias: even i have argued with Sagar and Brandon
[12/1/2012 11:14:34 PM] Adrian John Dias: you're no different from any normal person
[12/1/2012 11:14:41 PM] Adrian John Dias: those other guys?
[12/1/2012 11:14:44 PM] Adrian John Dias: WTF???
[12/1/2012 11:15:25 PM] tomas: big babies like you said
[12/1/2012 11:15:26 PM] tomas:
[12/1/2012 11:17:12 PM] Adrian John Dias: that is why they will never win
[12/1/2012 11:17:18 PM] Adrian John Dias: and why brandon will never win again
[12/1/2012 11:19:03 PM] Adrian John Dias: so what have you been up to this weekend?
[12/1/2012 11:22:32 PM] Adrian John Dias: Dave is online
[12/1/2012 11:23:08 PM] tomas: im just chillin
[12/1/2012 11:23:17 PM] tomas: and preparing to school
[12/1/2012 11:23:22 PM] tomas: i have to stay in BA:/
[12/1/2012 11:23:30 PM] tomas: bratislava i mean:D
[12/1/2012 11:24:00 PM] tomas: probably till end of the semester because i have lot work to do and i will be with gf next weekend also, or at least i hope i will be
[12/1/2012 11:24:06 PM] tomas: what about you?
[12/1/2012 11:24:14 PM] tomas: yes im already talkin to him about my spy plan
[12/1/2012 11:24:42 PM] tomas: [12/1/12 10:19:43 PM] Sagar: no i think he definitely is
[12/1/12 10:19:52 PM] Sagar: when i talked to him last night, he seemed 100% solid
[12/1/12 10:20:05 PM] Sagar: the only thing is that we have to make sure dave/adrian don't find out about it
[12/1/12 10:20:24 PM] Sagar: because dave has that thing from the mystery box that shows him someone's vote right?
[12/1/2012 11:27:32 PM] Adrian John Dias: woa!
[12/1/2012 11:27:41 PM] Adrian John Dias: Ryan told them our box items!!!
[12/1/2012 11:28:01 PM] Adrian John Dias: I was at my friend's birthday/farewell party
[12/1/2012 11:28:37 PM] Adrian John Dias: he is moving far away so I had a party with a lot of friends and dranks a lot of rum
[12/1/2012 11:30:16 PM] tomas: i am jealous..im at dormitory for a whole weekend lol.. i hope that you had a perfect time!
[12/1/2012 11:32:15 PM] Adrian John Dias: it was amazing
[12/1/2012 11:32:33 PM] Adrian John Dias: i hate that my friend is leaving, but he is going to have a great opportunity
[12/1/2012 11:32:47 PM] Adrian John Dias: going to try and see him as often as i can before he leaves
[12/1/2012 11:33:13 PM] tomas: and where is he going?
[12/1/2012 11:34:29 PM] tomas: okay i guess im gonna do on my school stuff lol
[12/1/2012 11:34:34 PM] tomas: so our plan:)
[12/1/2012 11:35:19 PM] tomas: me,you,dave voting for sure for Sagar (lets hope that Joe will do the same)... Sagar, Sam, and most probably Ryan against us..
[12/1/2012 11:35:29 PM] tomas: but with that knowing that im going with them
[12/1/2012 11:35:34 PM] tomas: and i will use my negate on sagar
[12/1/2012 11:36:49 PM] tomas: in case that they already got Joe and Ryan on their side, it's 3-3 (they are aiming you probably me or dave but i guess now when they will think that im with them they will aim you or dave first) so i hope we can beat them in revote with your iPoints because with mine we couldnt do so
[12/1/2012 11:37:16 PM] tomas: also if Joe is with us, and i hope he is.. we can vote sagar out easily and we gonna make same process with ryan next round because he flipped
[12/1/2012 11:37:21 PM] tomas: true?
[12/1/2012 11:37:25 PM] tomas: oh sorry
[12/1/2012 11:37:27 PM] tomas: right?
[12/1/2012 11:38:40 PM] Adrian John Dias: perfect
[12/1/2012 11:38:58 PM] Adrian John Dias: if i win immunity i will give either you or dave the iS points
[12/1/2012 11:39:05 PM] Adrian John Dias: depending on who is lower
[12/1/2012 11:41:23 PM] tomas: thanks bro
[12/1/2012 11:41:25 PM] tomas: good luck with challenge
[12/1/2012 11:41:41 PM] tomas: if you know something interesting send me here, or at proboards or at facebook
[12/1/2012 11:41:44 PM] tomas:
[12/1/2012 11:43:26 PM] Adrian John Dias: always!
[12/1/2012 11:43:33 PM] Adrian John Dias: thanks for wishing me luck
[12/1/2012 11:43:43 PM] Adrian John Dias: have a good one!
This must be why Ryan, of all people, is flipping on us. He believed a bluff! He didn't think to ask the rest of us about it or anything. He just swallowed Sagar's proposal without a 2nd thought.
Tomas and I decided that in case Joe is playing us, the next tribal council would be the ideal one to use his auction item that grants him the ability to negate someone's vote. Seeing as Dave also painted Tomas as a patsy in the bluff, we devised a plan for Tomas to act as a mole and pretend to be in on flipping.
[12/1/2012 12:39:57 AM] tomas: hey bro do you know what it was in dave's mystery box?
[12/1/2012 12:40:55 AM] Adrian John Dias: yup
[12/1/2012 12:41:01 AM] Adrian John Dias: he posted it in the chat
[12/1/2012 12:41:21 AM] Adrian John Dias: he gets to see anyone's vote up until final 5
[12/1/2012 12:41:30 AM] Adrian John Dias: mine sucked as well
[12/1/2012 12:41:57 AM] Adrian John Dias: this is mine:
[12/1/2012 12:42:00 AM] Adrian John Dias: [Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:56 PM] Adrian John Dias:
<<< gyazo.com/8d753849f22c92b0f7a487365c754716
[12/1/2012 12:42:03 AM] tomas: i dont get it:D
[12/1/2012 12:42:18 AM] Adrian John Dias: this is dave's
[12/1/2012 12:42:23 AM] Adrian John Dias: [Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:08 PM] Dave Johnston:
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[12/1/2012 12:42:32 AM] tomas: LOL
[12/1/2012 12:42:33 AM] tomas:
[12/1/2012 12:42:38 AM] tomas: idiotic
[12/1/2012 12:42:44 AM] Adrian John Dias: ha ha yup
[12/1/2012 12:42:58 AM] Adrian John Dias: if it was an idol and sagar got it, that would have sucked
[12/1/2012 12:43:05 AM] Adrian John Dias: so better safe than sorry
[12/1/2012 12:43:15 AM] Adrian John Dias: (whew)
[12/1/2012 12:43:31 AM] tomas: yeah that's true definitely
[12/1/2012 12:43:40 AM] tomas: we still have mine negate vote
[12/1/2012 12:43:43 AM] tomas: so it's okay
[12/1/2012 12:44:42 AM] Adrian John Dias: for sure
[12/1/2012 12:45:02 AM] Adrian John Dias: i think we will make final 3 easily at this rate
[12/1/2012 12:45:31 AM] Adrian John Dias: it all just depends on if one of us wins final immunity if we both get to final 2 together
[12/1/2012 12:45:56 AM] tomas: yeah it will be hard time that final immunity but i guess we can do this:)
[12/1/2012 12:46:05 AM] tomas: okay im gonna to have a rest:)
[12/1/2012 12:46:08 AM] tomas: see you later bro!
[12/1/2012 12:46:16 AM] Adrian John Dias: later!
[12/1/2012 12:46:20 AM] Adrian John Dias: have a good one
[12/1/2012 10:08:06 PM] tomas: Hey, I normally don't get a chance to catch you on skype, but I ran into some information that I figured you would appreciate looking at. I talked to Ryan about this as well, this is what I sent him:
[8:37:34 PM] Sagar: well, that's fine. i'm not sure why you're ignoring me since i'm going to be on jury lol. but i figured i might as well show you something that you might be interested in seeing. if i were you, i wouldn't run around telling other people that i told you this, because that would confer absolutely ZERO benefit to you. i am giving you a guaranteed shot at the final 2 right now, and this screenshot should show you with absolutely 100% definitive proof that this is the right move to make. sure, you can go around and tell dave that i told you that he told me this, i don't care. i'm leaving this round anyway. but if you do that, you're still getting 5th or 4th no matter what, and this screenshot should prove that. but if you/tomas do decide to flip and guarantee yourselves final 3 instead of getting 5th and 4th, then you know who to talk to.
[8:37:35 PM] Sagar: i.imgur.com/X03aW.png
[8:38:28 PM] Sagar: you can singlehandedly turn this game around at this point in the game, ryan. people won't see you as the sheep or follower anymore and you'll be seen as the person who completely changed his own fate and got himself to the finals.
[8:40:18 PM] Sagar: if you realize now that this is the right move for you, you and tomas can change it up right here, right now with me and sam. at that point, i have no problem at all voting out sam at 4th, and then you/me/tomas are in the f3.
Anyway, that was what I wrote to him, but it applies to you as well. Be sure to click on that image link to see what I'm talking about...I'm sure you will realize that this is the right move at this point in the game. Please get back to me.
[12/1/2012 10:08:13 PM] tomas: this is something from Sagar about Dave lol
[12/1/2012 10:08:47 PM] tomas: this should definitely makes Joe uncomfortable
[12/1/2012 10:12:03 PM] Adrian John Dias: woa!
[12/1/2012 10:12:13 PM] Adrian John Dias: whaaaaat?
[12/1/2012 10:12:28 PM] tomas: to be clear with ya i dont get a shit from sagar
[12/1/2012 10:12:28 PM] Adrian John Dias: is he in cohoots with Joe?
[12/1/2012 10:12:55 PM] tomas: and dave probably just only bluff these guys
[12/1/2012 10:13:04 PM] tomas: but just in case i repost it here not in official thread lol:D
[12/1/2012 10:13:16 PM] Adrian John Dias: ha ha
[12/1/2012 10:13:25 PM] Adrian John Dias: i have been worried about Ryan flipping
[12/1/2012 10:13:41 PM] Adrian John Dias: he came to me asking for iS points again
[12/1/2012 10:13:51 PM] Adrian John Dias: that may help him if he flips
[12/1/2012 10:13:52 PM] tomas: we still can negate one vote
[12/1/2012 10:14:02 PM] Adrian John Dias: i think you should use it
[12/1/2012 10:14:03 PM] tomas: so we can do it this council
[12/1/2012 10:14:11 PM] tomas: but only you and i will know about it
[12/1/2012 10:14:23 PM] tomas: then we can easily see if somebody flipped before it hurts lol
[12/1/2012 10:14:30 PM] Adrian John Dias: if i win immunity, i will give the points to the one with the lowest iS score - other than Joe
[12/1/2012 10:14:41 PM] Adrian John Dias: excellent idea!
[12/1/2012 10:16:47 PM] Adrian John Dias: we should also target whoever of Sam and Sagar has the least points in case
[12/1/2012 10:17:13 PM] tomas: yeah joe is good idea, even if i dont know why the hell he was dissapointed
[12/1/2012 10:18:23 PM] Adrian John Dias: there must be something else going on, here
[12/1/2012 10:18:37 PM] Adrian John Dias: something we have no clue on
[12/1/2012 10:18:50 PM] Adrian John Dias: think about if Joe and Ryan flip
[12/1/2012 10:18:57 PM] Adrian John Dias: then it is 4 - 3
[12/1/2012 10:19:12 PM] Adrian John Dias: if we negate the vote, we have another 3 -3 vote next time
[12/1/2012 10:19:30 PM] tomas: i dont think that Joe will flip he's loyal from first tc, he even played an immunity for me:D lol what a move.. idont get it, but we have to communicate with him
[12/1/2012 10:19:44 PM] Adrian John Dias: we really do
[12/1/2012 10:19:47 PM] tomas: yeah thats true
[12/1/2012 10:19:54 PM] tomas: i will negate the sagar's vote for sure
[12/1/2012 10:19:54 PM] tomas: or sam whatever
[12/1/2012 10:20:17 PM] Adrian John Dias: lol, i would say Sagar's just to piss him off some more
[12/1/2012 10:20:41 PM] tomas: yeah i really want use it for Sagar bro
[12/1/2012 10:20:51 PM] Adrian John Dias: it definitely seems like a bluff from Dave
[12/1/2012 10:21:22 PM] tomas: im gonna contact ryan
[12/1/2012 10:21:27 PM] tomas: with that message
[12/1/2012 10:21:40 PM] tomas: what do you think?
[12/1/2012 10:21:52 PM] Adrian John Dias: good idea
[12/1/2012 10:21:56 PM] Adrian John Dias: see what he says
[12/1/2012 10:22:15 PM] Adrian John Dias: he is online
[12/1/2012 10:22:19 PM] tomas: but for now, only me and you know about negate vote in next TC okay?
[12/1/2012 10:22:26 PM] Adrian John Dias: promise
[12/1/2012 10:22:37 PM] Adrian John Dias: i will most certainly not tell anyone
[12/1/2012 10:22:47 PM] Adrian John Dias: it might blow our secret plan
[12/1/2012 10:22:55 PM] tomas: im sure that you wont, but just in case we have to be careful:)
[12/1/2012 10:23:03 PM] Adrian John Dias: definitely
[12/1/2012 10:23:14 PM] Adrian John Dias: this is a dangerous time in the game actually
[12/1/2012 10:23:38 PM] tomas: yeah it really is
[12/1/2012 10:23:53 PM] tomas: but i still think that they only try to make idiots from us lol
[12/1/2012 10:24:06 PM] tomas: we just have to keep our plan to vote them out
[12/1/2012 10:25:17 PM] Adrian John Dias: exactly
[12/1/2012 10:25:28 PM] Adrian John Dias: any traitors can be dealt with afterwards
[12/1/2012 10:26:25 PM] tomas: it will be okay, we just have to find out what ryan and joe think about it..and even if they will flip we can play it on a tie at least
[12/1/2012 10:26:40 PM] tomas: but honestly i guess that they wont
[12/1/2012 10:27:03 PM] Adrian John Dias: Joe is online
[12/1/2012 10:27:19 PM] tomas: okay
[12/1/2012 10:27:19 PM] tomas: me or you?
[12/1/2012 10:28:19 PM] Adrian John Dias: both of us separately
[12/1/2012 10:29:15 PM] tomas: kk
[12/1/2012 10:29:39 PM] Adrian John Dias: let us see if he tells us different things
[12/1/2012 10:33:31 PM] tomas: i m just tellin him about messages from sagar and sam
[12/1/2012 10:33:39 PM] tomas: he saying that it's crazy
[12/1/2012 10:33:53 PM] tomas: what is worse i have no response from Ryan
[12/1/2012 10:34:13 PM] Adrian John Dias: I think Ryan may be wanting to flip
[12/1/2012 10:36:17 PM] tomas: yeah but joe seems cool to me now
[12/1/2012 10:37:00 PM] tomas: in case that they will get ryan to flip they will need another 1
[12/1/2012 10:37:20 PM] tomas: i replied to sagar, but never told him a word about strategy and he dont reply me back
[12/1/2012 10:37:36 PM] tomas: so idk i hope that they wont start working on joe
[12/1/2012 10:38:02 PM] Adrian John Dias: me too!
[12/1/2012 10:38:14 PM] Adrian John Dias: we have to play it cool
[12/1/2012 10:39:48 PM] tomas: yeah
[12/1/2012 10:41:37 PM] tomas: what do you think that i should talk to sagar?
[12/1/2012 10:41:43 PM] tomas: about his offer?
[12/1/2012 10:41:57 PM] Adrian John Dias: ask him what he has in mind
[12/1/2012 10:42:18 PM] Adrian John Dias: say you might "consider" flipping if he offers you a good deal
[12/1/2012 10:42:30 PM] Adrian John Dias: ask him if anyone else wants to flip
[12/1/2012 10:43:56 PM] tomas: [12/1/12 9:43:22 PM] tomas: me too, i was like i need to be focused at the morning when i read it first time, but i finally read it now
[12/1/12 9:43:24 PM] tomas: anyways
[12/1/12 9:43:30 PM] tomas: it's interesting one
[12/1/12 9:43:42 PM] tomas: i don't get it from dave, but i dont know
[12/1/12 9:43:45 PM] tomas: have you talked to ryan?
[12/1/2012 10:44:50 PM] Adrian John Dias: good work!
[12/1/2012 10:46:19 PM] tomas: we can also make me as flippin on other side, meaning they will think about Me,Ryan,Sam,Sagar against use..but i will vote with ya and use our advantage lol
[12/1/2012 10:46:21 PM] tomas: but we will see
[12/1/2012 10:46:23 PM] tomas:
[12/1/2012 10:46:31 PM] tomas: ryan still havent send response to me
[12/1/2012 10:47:27 PM] Adrian John Dias: wow
[12/1/2012 10:47:34 PM] Adrian John Dias: I am surprised by Ryan
[12/1/2012 10:47:46 PM] Adrian John Dias: I always thought it would be Joe
[12/1/2012 10:48:00 PM] Adrian John Dias: he always seemed most likely to flip
[12/1/2012 10:49:31 PM] tomas: bro
[12/1/2012 10:49:37 PM] tomas: from joe
[12/1/2012 10:50:04 PM] tomas: [12/1/12 9:47:54 PM] Joe Martinez: Ryan Quanz 11/30/12 8:15 PM
So if I'm correct the plan is: Vote out Adrian, if he wins vote out Tom. Me and Joe will answer like the way we did at TC last week like you guys don't have a hope
[12/1/12 9:47:58 PM] Joe Martinez: ...is that the evidence you need?
[12/1/12 9:48:52 PM] Joe Martinez: btw you have to bible you are not gonna mention this to ANYONE!
[12/1/12 9:49:06 PM] tomas: lol ouch
[12/1/12 9:49:20 PM] tomas: i promise of course)
[12/1/2012 10:50:17 PM] tomas: so be quiet with that one:)
[12/1/2012 10:53:24 PM] Adrian John Dias: he sent me the same
[12/1/2012 10:53:28 PM] Adrian John Dias: ssshhhhh
[12/1/2012 10:53:56 PM] tomas: well so i guess it's a really true with ryan
[12/1/2012 10:55:12 PM] tomas: [12/1/12 9:43:45 PM] tomas: have you talked to ryan?
[12/1/12 9:43:52 PM] tomas: about this?
[12/1/12 9:44:18 PM] tomas: it can be real good deal in case that it's true with dave
[12/1/12 9:52:57 PM] Sagar: yeah i have
[12/1/12 9:53:04 PM] Sagar: i talked to him about it and he's down as well
[12/1/12 9:53:52 PM] Sagar: the only thing is that you have to make sure dave doesn't find out about this, because he will try to sweet talk quanz once he finds out i showed quanz what he sent me
[12/1/2012 10:56:55 PM] Adrian John Dias: fuck
[12/1/2012 10:57:04 PM] Adrian John Dias: ryan is naive
[12/1/2012 10:57:54 PM] tomas: dont worry because i guess joe is with us clearly
[12/1/2012 10:58:28 PM] Adrian John Dias: he might be playing us too
[12/1/2012 10:58:44 PM] Adrian John Dias: if he and ryan are on their side, he might be trying to gather info
[12/1/2012 10:59:01 PM] Adrian John Dias: that is why he is telling us seoarately
[12/1/2012 10:59:18 PM] Adrian John Dias: but i will believe Joe for now
[12/1/2012 10:59:39 PM] Adrian John Dias: either way, we have to talk to Dave at some point
[12/1/2012 10:59:49 PM] tomas: yy that's true
[12/1/2012 11:00:01 PM] tomas: for now i can be with that plan to flip
[12/1/2012 11:00:05 PM] Adrian John Dias: but let us not show him what Joe showed us, in case he and Joe have something going on
[12/1/2012 11:00:16 PM] tomas: but you need to talk to dave in case i wont be on... i will tell him same
[12/1/2012 11:00:23 PM] Adrian John Dias: for sure!
[12/1/2012 11:00:35 PM] tomas: yeah thats wise bro!
[12/1/2012 11:00:59 PM] tomas: so i can talk to sagar like im flipping right
[12/1/2012 11:01:16 PM] tomas: i told same to joe (even he knows it's bluff)
[12/1/2012 11:01:46 PM] tomas: in case he is with them, my cover is blown, but we still have negate..in case that he is not with them he will get it because i told him about bluffin
[12/1/2012 11:01:59 PM] Adrian John Dias: the plan should still be vote Sagar out now, and deal with any traitor next
[12/1/2012 11:02:02 PM] Adrian John Dias: awesome plan1
[12/1/2012 11:02:16 PM] Adrian John Dias: go be our spy
[12/1/2012 11:04:05 PM] tomas: [12/1/12 9:57:57 PM] Sagar: yeah of course
[12/1/12 9:58:10 PM] Sagar: i feel really good about this final 4, becaue adrian/dave are clearly popularity threats you know?
[12/1/12 9:58:17 PM] Sagar: like they're both so likable that they would win so easily in the final 2
[12/1/12 9:58:21 PM] Sagar: even i would vote for them on the jury lmao
[12/1/12 9:58:25 PM] Sagar: i feel like doing this really gives us a shot
[12/1/12 9:58:55 PM] Sagar: and adrian has basically been running this game
[12/1/12 9:59:18 PM] Sagar: i think ryan wants to vote out adrian since he's basically running things over there
[12/1/12 9:59:20 PM] Sagar: are you okay with that?
[12/1/12 9:59:24 PM] Sagar: if adrian wins immunity
[12/1/12 10:00:03 PM] Sagar: then we can do dave
[12/1/2012 11:04:54 PM] tomas: [12/1/12 10:03:40 PM] tomas: yeah everyone is real popularity threat but it's right you are right man
[12/1/12 10:03:53 PM] tomas: i just want to be sure that we will go to this with numbers lol
[12/1/12 10:04:15 PM] Sagar: no ryan is solid for sure
[12/1/12 10:04:33 PM] Sagar: can you try talking to him about it? he's online but i think he might not be at his computer right now
[12/1/2012 11:05:23 PM] Adrian John Dias: ha ha
[12/1/2012 11:05:27 PM] Adrian John Dias: what a liar
[12/1/2012 11:05:37 PM] Adrian John Dias: he flat-out said i lost his vote
[12/1/2012 11:05:39 PM] Adrian John Dias:
[12/1/2012 11:07:56 PM] tomas: lol yeah
[12/1/2012 11:08:32 PM] tomas: i am liar also now, he gonna cry same as he did in nukwele that everybody lied to him, but i was trying to be honest to CB,Sam and him but when you cant you just cant lol
[12/1/2012 11:09:30 PM] Adrian John Dias: ha ha
[12/1/2012 11:09:40 PM] Adrian John Dias: Sagar is a big baby for sure
[12/1/2012 11:09:58 PM] tomas: this ORG is full of big babies
[12/1/2012 11:11:31 PM] Adrian John Dias: ha ha ha
[12/1/2012 11:11:38 PM] Adrian John Dias: i know!
[12/1/2012 11:11:51 PM] Adrian John Dias: aren't all ORG's like this?
[12/1/2012 11:12:13 PM] Adrian John Dias: don't people get sulky and angry when they get voted out?
[12/1/2012 11:13:08 PM] tomas: that's why this people will be dead in real survivor or something similiar
[12/1/2012 11:13:23 PM] tomas: because they cant get their emotions calmed down
[12/1/2012 11:13:25 PM] tomas:
[12/1/2012 11:13:40 PM] tomas: i am not best in that also (remember my arguing with brandon lol)
[12/1/2012 11:13:43 PM] tomas: but sagar..i mean seriously
[12/1/2012 11:14:01 PM] Adrian John Dias: everyone get's upset
[12/1/2012 11:14:13 PM] Adrian John Dias: even i have argued with Sagar and Brandon
[12/1/2012 11:14:34 PM] Adrian John Dias: you're no different from any normal person
[12/1/2012 11:14:41 PM] Adrian John Dias: those other guys?
[12/1/2012 11:14:44 PM] Adrian John Dias: WTF???
[12/1/2012 11:15:25 PM] tomas: big babies like you said
[12/1/2012 11:15:26 PM] tomas:
[12/1/2012 11:17:12 PM] Adrian John Dias: that is why they will never win
[12/1/2012 11:17:18 PM] Adrian John Dias: and why brandon will never win again
[12/1/2012 11:19:03 PM] Adrian John Dias: so what have you been up to this weekend?
[12/1/2012 11:22:32 PM] Adrian John Dias: Dave is online
[12/1/2012 11:23:08 PM] tomas: im just chillin
[12/1/2012 11:23:17 PM] tomas: and preparing to school
[12/1/2012 11:23:22 PM] tomas: i have to stay in BA:/
[12/1/2012 11:23:30 PM] tomas: bratislava i mean:D
[12/1/2012 11:24:00 PM] tomas: probably till end of the semester because i have lot work to do and i will be with gf next weekend also, or at least i hope i will be
[12/1/2012 11:24:06 PM] tomas: what about you?
[12/1/2012 11:24:14 PM] tomas: yes im already talkin to him about my spy plan
[12/1/2012 11:24:42 PM] tomas: [12/1/12 10:19:43 PM] Sagar: no i think he definitely is
[12/1/12 10:19:52 PM] Sagar: when i talked to him last night, he seemed 100% solid
[12/1/12 10:20:05 PM] Sagar: the only thing is that we have to make sure dave/adrian don't find out about it
[12/1/12 10:20:24 PM] Sagar: because dave has that thing from the mystery box that shows him someone's vote right?
[12/1/2012 11:27:32 PM] Adrian John Dias: woa!
[12/1/2012 11:27:41 PM] Adrian John Dias: Ryan told them our box items!!!
[12/1/2012 11:28:01 PM] Adrian John Dias: I was at my friend's birthday/farewell party
[12/1/2012 11:28:37 PM] Adrian John Dias: he is moving far away so I had a party with a lot of friends and dranks a lot of rum
[12/1/2012 11:30:16 PM] tomas: i am jealous..im at dormitory for a whole weekend lol.. i hope that you had a perfect time!
[12/1/2012 11:32:15 PM] Adrian John Dias: it was amazing
[12/1/2012 11:32:33 PM] Adrian John Dias: i hate that my friend is leaving, but he is going to have a great opportunity
[12/1/2012 11:32:47 PM] Adrian John Dias: going to try and see him as often as i can before he leaves
[12/1/2012 11:33:13 PM] tomas: and where is he going?
[12/1/2012 11:34:29 PM] tomas: okay i guess im gonna do on my school stuff lol
[12/1/2012 11:34:34 PM] tomas: so our plan:)
[12/1/2012 11:35:19 PM] tomas: me,you,dave voting for sure for Sagar (lets hope that Joe will do the same)... Sagar, Sam, and most probably Ryan against us..
[12/1/2012 11:35:29 PM] tomas: but with that knowing that im going with them
[12/1/2012 11:35:34 PM] tomas: and i will use my negate on sagar
[12/1/2012 11:36:49 PM] tomas: in case that they already got Joe and Ryan on their side, it's 3-3 (they are aiming you probably me or dave but i guess now when they will think that im with them they will aim you or dave first) so i hope we can beat them in revote with your iPoints because with mine we couldnt do so
[12/1/2012 11:37:16 PM] tomas: also if Joe is with us, and i hope he is.. we can vote sagar out easily and we gonna make same process with ryan next round because he flipped
[12/1/2012 11:37:21 PM] tomas: true?
[12/1/2012 11:37:25 PM] tomas: oh sorry
[12/1/2012 11:37:27 PM] tomas: right?
[12/1/2012 11:38:40 PM] Adrian John Dias: perfect
[12/1/2012 11:38:58 PM] Adrian John Dias: if i win immunity i will give either you or dave the iS points
[12/1/2012 11:39:05 PM] Adrian John Dias: depending on who is lower
[12/1/2012 11:41:23 PM] tomas: thanks bro
[12/1/2012 11:41:25 PM] tomas: good luck with challenge
[12/1/2012 11:41:41 PM] tomas: if you know something interesting send me here, or at proboards or at facebook
[12/1/2012 11:41:44 PM] tomas:
[12/1/2012 11:43:26 PM] Adrian John Dias: always!
[12/1/2012 11:43:33 PM] Adrian John Dias: thanks for wishing me luck
[12/1/2012 11:43:43 PM] Adrian John Dias: have a good one!