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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2012 4:38:03 GMT -5
Sagar, please post your Questions/Statements to Sam & Tomas here. [/b][/center]
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Post by Sagar on Dec 13, 2012 14:07:52 GMT -5
Yay! And I'll wait for Sam to post his opening statement.
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Post by Sagar on Dec 13, 2012 23:36:32 GMT -5
First of all, fuck both of you. /loljk You're both deserving finalists, and I'm super glad you two made it to the end. You might think I'm bitter for both of you voting me out at the F5 but I mean you're both here, so clearly it wasn't a dumb move on either of your parts like I initially thought it was lol...so I can't complain about it. Sam, I think you've played an AMAZING game, especially since we had both been on minority since merge. There were times when I really just wanted to give up because some Mbochis had all but told us that it was essentially going to be a Pagonging, but you never got frustrated or gave up and that's why you're sitting there. Tomas, likewise. I can't say MUCH about your gameplay because we didn't talk too much, but I think you've also played an amazing game. People need to realize that it's not all about who made big moves and who was the strategic mastermind from the start. It's often the people that play a fierce UTR game that make it to the end; it's a tried and true strategy in real Survivor, and I think you nailed that role. I also think you were arguably the most likable of the Mbochi bloc (from my perspective), which would have almost guaranteed you a jury vote in the Finals if you were up against another Mbochi, so you definitely nailed the jury management aspect of the game which I think is super important (that's probably hard to believe coming from me). However, now that you're up against Sam, you will definitely have to work for my vote. That's not to say that Sam is automatically getting my vote: I will read all the other answers/statements carefully to find out more about Tomas' strategy and more about how Sam worked the Mbochi people (because I was mostly blind to that dynamic of the game) because I'm assuming the other questions will reveal a lot of this stuff. However, I'm just going to test your level of insight into the game, to try to keep it fun and not completely painful...I've been in a FTC before, and it was just downright depressing having to answer painfully drawn-out questions from bitter fucks, so let's avoid that. I've said before that I don't care about awarding a vote to the person who was the most visibly strategic and can say they made so and so number of moves in the game; I want to award it to the person who is a better character, has a better story arc, and who I can look back on as a deserving winner. So, testing your insight: Assign each juror and yourselves (that includes your FTC opponent as well) in this game a real-life Survivor that they most closely match. Do it carefully and provide a good, solid reason. Keep in mind the things I mentioned above about character and story arc. Also, compare this entire season to any one season of Survivor. I realize Jose asked something similar (fuck you man), but this is a little different and it's the question I had planned since I was voted out. Also, it might be in your best interest to answer this before the other person, because I'm making it illegal to use the same Survivors/season that the person who answered first used. You CAN reassign a same Survivor (say Dave was compared to Russell Hantz, the second finalist who answers can still use Russell, but just not for Dave.) If I'm impressed by your level of insight (AKA you compare me to someone I love and worship), you'll probably get my vote. Good luck to both of you! EDIT: Okay, so Sam, I just read this in your opening statement: "I did make up a story bout someone not liking someone else at merge, but I didn't fake entire Skype screenshots. I feel like I struck a good balance between Survivor gameplay and being real." This won't affect my vote at all, but can you elaborate? I know you didn't really tell me your true opinion on that whole shitshow during the game, and that all the Mbochi people would obviously be furious about it since it only hurt them, but now that we're not in the game, what are your thoughts on that? You say that it's not "real" (well, I mean in the literal sense, obviously this is correct ) but what do you mean by that?
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Post by Sagar on Dec 14, 2012 2:09:53 GMT -5
Also, Sam, thank you for filling me in on the brilliance that is "Let's have a Kiki." Like for real, I'm learning this by tomorrow.
Okay I'm done now. This is what happens when I don't have access to my confessional to post random thoughts!!
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Post by Tomas on Dec 14, 2012 10:32:55 GMT -5
Hey Sagar. Thanks for your appreciatory words and your question Assign each juror and yourselves (that includes your FTC opponent as well) in this game a real-life Survivor that they most closely match. Do it carefully and provide a good, solid reason. Keep in mind the things I mentioned above about character and story arc. Also, compare this entire season to any one season of SurvivorRenee RENEE vs. DAWN MEEHAN (South Pacific) Renee story is very similiar to story of Dawn Meehan in my opinion. Renee was definitely at the bottom of the Kwele and she was supposed to be first to go (as long as i heard about first TC). Well Dawn hadn't suposed to be first to go, but you know she, Coachran and Papa Bear was supposed from another young ones alliance. So Renee (Same like Dawn) had to prove to her tribemates that she's better choice to keep her around that somebody else. Which by the way prove also her quote at immunity challenge (idk 10?) "I'm hoping that the effort I put in to this challenge will buy me some good will with the guys and they might not be in such a hurry to get rid of me." and so on... Dawn also wasn't be affraid of doing big moves, but she was still trying to stay loyal to guys playing with her. Renee did a great step in time of tribe switch where she blindsided Hash. From there she stayed loyal to Mbochi still, even when we didn't know if we can trust her. She stayed behind her word this council and it was pity for game that she had to go. I think that Renee is really similiar to Dawn. Renee just did a bigger move in this game, like Dawn ever did in SP. But my comparation is her. CB CB vs. BENRY (Nicaragua) Chris Brown is real Benry for me. He's somebody who has his own honor and he's not so desperate to make alliance with everybody in everytime. Yeah, CB played a real great social game, but as long as he didn't need to ask for it, he just trying to stay communicative but not making agreement with everyone. On other side, once he was f..... up he never retrieve. He was trying to make a deal. I was honest to him that im voting with my alliance, he accepted it but he was still trying. What a move. Still i don't get why he missed that key challenge (auction). Like i don't get Benry's last council. Another reason is being great in challenges like Benry was. Oh honestly, lot of Kwele are like Benry But my comparation, because they way like CB act, like he played and also because good self esteem is Benry. QUANZ RYAN vs. OZZY (Cook Islands, Micronesia, SP) Ryan was a really big one in challenges. I guess that only Sagar was like him in challenges. I know that in this season, every challenge was different and probably big part of contestants after merge was real threat in challenges. But Ryan was a real active one! He could stay all night to make a part of the challenge like real Ozzy. Also Ryan is youngest player in this game. I can't forget how Danielle said at very first moment: "Get Ryan on our side he will be easy to manipulate."So we did, and vote of her and Brandon lol. Anyways. RYAN WAS NOT LIKE THAT. Ryan was just like Ozzy, lot of good confidence just from the start of the game. He believe to his strong in challenges, and to his steps. (Ryan why the fuck you descire yourself like white and nerdy? okay i don't know this song:D) Ozzy is also very self confidence person. I don't know how Ryan is in real, but in this game he wasn't easily to manipulate and he was strong. He just made bad decision to flip soon. Like Ozzy did so many times with his: "I am on my own guys,free agent." Ryan flipped to soon and we really knew that he did. My comparation of Ryan because his being good in challenges, with good self esteem(at least in a game) and focus on challenges is to Ozzy. ADRIAN ADRIAN vs. MARIANO (Marquesas, All Stars, Heroes vs. Villains, Rademption Island) Like i said so many times. Adrian is really strong personality. He is great strategy player, likeable a lot, he is leader whose lot of tribes need and he's not affraid to doing a big wise moves. I will never though that Mariano is real Villain. Not for a minute. Russel is a villain. Back in old times, yeah maybe there Mariano was villain. But nowadays he's just best strategic player. With lot of good challenge references makes him great survivor. My comparation to Adrian is Mariano because of this. Because Adrian has a story, about being tribe leader, about being strong in challenges and with a great and powerful strategy he destroyed Hash and survive after hard-switch time. After all he became a biggest target because he played with lot of great players, which aren't so dumb like Mariano's alliance was in RI Adrian's end was like Mariano's at HvV. "Voting him off was the best thing what they could do." So my comparation is Adrian to Boston Rob. SAGAR SAGAR vs. PENNER (Cook Islands, Micronesia, Philippines) Yeah Sagar. You are Penner for me. Penner is somebody who with his acting, social gaming, being funny can bring lot of people on his side. Also he can form a real strong and great arguments to why vote with him. That's why i think that you are very very similiar to him. Every your reason make a sense to me, it just wasn't a way how i wanted to play this game. I know you would do everything to keep yourself in this game just like Jonathan and even there was no chance for you like immunity you did a lot of work and produce lot of great arguments and strategies. You had ability to wire the air in the camp in a minute. This is not Russel gaming, this is more powerful gaming - Jonathan. Also like you survived till final 5 against our numbers is similiar how Jonathan survived so long, even everybody hunted him. Well, one thing it's not playing for my comparation is number of immunities that Jonathan won. Only 1. You were deadly one in immunities. That's why i voted you off also. So you are Jonathan with better physical skills lol. Jonathan is my comparation. DAVE DAVE vs. MALCOLM (Philippines) Dave is Malcolm for me. We have another threat in challenges here. And he is also (in my opinion) very smart player. That's why i think that Dave is really similiar to Malcolm with his acting in Philippines. He's threat in challenges and also in social game. Dave was working with his alliance like Malcolm did with Denise. For the first, Dave wasn't so much "on the shot" like in last rounds. Same like Malcolm in Philippines. With Dave's move - to vote Adrian off in final 6 he became another big target. Like Malcolm was for so many times in this game. Being wise and good particapting in challenges and having ablitiy to being nice to people and bring symphaty to his way is why i compare Dave to Malcolm. JOSEJOE vs. CHRIS (Vanuatu) Chris is my choice for Joe. Because Chris knew a game very well, but he was really unpredictable winner of Survivor. I guess that me and Joe are both player, which nobody expect to be so far. In case that, Joe gets final i guess that he can become another winner of this game like Chris. Joe played a really under the radar game, till their connection with Dave became known. Joe has same stategy like me and even he did a great moves lot of them are just signed to Dave, not to him. But i guess it's job from both of them. Also my comparation to Chris and Joe, is because Joe also had to turn against his closest friend, because of the game, same like Chris did against Eliza. My comparation is Chris. SAMi45.tinypic.com/4s0ahk.jpg[/img] SAM vs. ETHAN (Africa) Sam is similiar to Ethan for me. Sam story is very tough, he and his alliance after the merge was really outnumbered, but he still could be calm and just nice to other players. He was really under radar in this game, that's why he is so hard enemy to have here. Then Sam with me form an alliance so he can take also control of his faith and get it to the end like Ethan did. (Evan Ethan didnt win last IC). I think that Sam is really similiar to Ethan. I just hope that he won't win like Ethan did Sorry man. My comparation is to Sam. MEME vs. IAN (Palau) I'm comparing me to Ian from Palau. I am not fan of comparing myself to anybody. It's up to you guys to either like or hate my gameplay and compare to somebody. But now i am standing in front of jury and i want to win this game, so i'm comparing mine to Ian. It's only my opinion so i am open for every critics. I like Colby for the most but i am not so good physical player like he was in Australia Okay so why Ian? Because i guess he's strong and kind person. I was trying to be kind to all for all of the time (except Brandon - sorry Brandon) and also honest to everybody as much as it could be. My gameplay was based on this and not being under radar. That's why i think that mine and Ian's story is very similiar. I hope that im gonna break the rule and being more effective then Ian was. I wanna win this game. So my comparation of myself is to Ian. SEASON COMPARATIONI will compare this season to Philippines. I know that it's maybe dumb to compare to season which haven't end yet - but so then this season, lol. Also i think that lot of stuff in iSurv1vor : Congo are similiar to Philippines. 1. Every one boot of the game was very very hard and foregoing things were very interesting. 2. Lot of great players were casted in this season. For real, i think that maybe 3 (maybe even less) people in this season was not so interesting players, and it can be also because they was just unlucky. Another cast - deadly. 3. And lot of great players were booted soon - like RC, Jeff, later Jonathan. Here- Hash, Adrian, Kim..and so on. 4. There were a big moves. Like voting of Jeff. (Voting of Hash in our case). Also unluck for Kwele because of JEB's quit. Booting off Dana in Philippines. And so on so on. 5. I'm sure that players and whole season of iSurvivor Congo will become known as very good players and epic season of iSurvivor Series which bring something epic, like Philippines did after lot of non-interesting seasons. You know Philippines is like sunshine after One World, RI, and stuff... And i hope that Congo will do same in this case. Lol finally. It was great question So this is my answers Sagar. I hope u will like it. Thanks for it and see you! [/center]
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Post by Sagar on Dec 14, 2012 13:19:32 GMT -5
Thank you very much, Tomas. Definitely satisfied with your answers!!
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Post by Sam on Dec 15, 2012 18:10:17 GMT -5
Hi Sagar, thanks for your comments. =) With regards to the screenshot, this is a game of Survivor, and a reality tv show lol. Our minority group at merge was just fighting against all odds, and had to come up with some plan to try and turn things around. I mean, my plan was to come up with a faked conversation that we copied and pasted into text. You just used a screenshot instead. I didn't think of it much at the time, but I guess if they thought that you created a whole new Skype profile spoofing their ID and were contacting their friends or something, they would feel a little weird. You didn't do that but they didn't know that. Maybe that's why they reacted the way they did. *shrugs* Thanks Sagar. Now for your question! I stopped watching Survivor after Cook Islands. This is tough for me to do as I've forgotten a lot of what these players were like in the 7-10 years since. I like watching online survivor games instead of the tv show I guess. Sorry if my memory is bad with the players. Renee: Jenna from Amazon. Jenna never gave up and pushed hard and made lots of friends. Chris: Cirie from Survivor Panama. I just read her Wikipedia page and it seems she came back and did awesome. It says "everyone loves Cirie" and everyone loves Chris! Both of them are fierce + friendly. Ryan: Colby from Outback and All-Stars. Both played hard and were liked, and did great at Immunity Challenges. Adrian: Ami from Survivor: Vanuatu. Like Ami, Adrian was in completely control and a power figure since day one. He actively did amazing in challenge, was friends with everyone, and ruled the roost. But then his power was too threatening so like Ami, they had to overthrow him. Sagar: Shii Ann from All-Stars and Thailand. In both she tried so hard and played so well but was just barely out of the majority alliance and had bad luck. She played an awesome game. Dave: Neleh from Marquesas. Everyone loved Neleh. She also was really smart and in power for most of the game. She could have easily won if things went her way! Joe: Rafe from Guatemala. Rafe played an amazing game. At the end, Danni knew she couldn't beat him so she had to vote him out. =/ Tomas: I compare Tomas to Darrah from Survivor: Pearl Islands. Tomas was nice and friendly, and loyal, and stated simply what he was going to do. People liked having Tomas and Darrah around. Like Darrah, Tomas had a strategy that would always take him to the end, no matter what happened. But also like Darrah, Tomas did not work hard to create a path to victory for him to ultimately win. He did not work actively to help himself in the game or make any moves at all and he was always at the mercy of others, even when in a majority alliance. Sam: For me I choose Chris from Survivor: Vanuatu. Like Chris I played hard in my original tribe. But at merge, my tribe got eliminated and I watched my friends get voted out every tribal council. But I stuck in there and I never gave up against all odds. By working hard everyday, playing smart, and winning a few key immunities, I kept myself in the game and played a whole new game with the other tribe. At the end I made it against all odds through several tribal councils to bring myself to the final two. Oh I forgot to comment about you liking a character with a great story arc. I think me and you had one of the most amazing, dramatic, and incredible roller coaster story arcs Survivor has ever seen lol. We were up and down on Kwele, we were fighting with our backs to the wall at merge, and we came through at the very end not once, but TWICE when Ryan and Adrian were voted out, and we survived. 0=) Then we were mere INCHES away from surviving at final five too! It was so close! What a story haha. Hope this helps a little bit Sagar, thanks for the questions and comments. It was a pleasure playing the game with you, and I look forward to seeing you in many other games in the future!
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Post by Sagar on Dec 15, 2012 23:02:10 GMT -5
Oh snap, Darrah from Pearl Islands. The ultimate insult. Thanks Sam!!
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Post by Sagar on Dec 16, 2012 2:50:09 GMT -5
Why are there viewers liking and disliking FTC posts? lol shadeeeeeeeeeee
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Post by Sagar on Dec 16, 2012 2:54:02 GMT -5
Hi, Jeffrey, sweetie, I get that you and Tomas are from the same country and all, but can you not get involved in FTC?
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Post by Jeffrey on Dec 16, 2012 5:42:26 GMT -5
Jeffrey is such a Slovak name <3.
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Jared
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The Delusional Fucker of iS15 :)
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Post by Jared on Dec 16, 2012 13:34:32 GMT -5
Ignore us, were not the influence
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Post by Sagar on Dec 16, 2012 14:56:46 GMT -5
Well the Slovakian flag in your signature led me to believe otherwise. That's not really the point, it's still annoying.
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Post by Jeffrey on Dec 16, 2012 16:18:21 GMT -5
Um, then don't look at the bottom of the post.
Especially not the one you just posted! ^_^
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Post by Sagar on Dec 16, 2012 16:23:36 GMT -5
good lord you're a dipshit l0l
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